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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Anyone use them?

Having cricked my neck on more than one occasion (and having to performing an emergency stop whilst left foot breaking which lead to me staling) I now use left foot breaking ever day

However, WTF is heel and toeing?? Evo tryed to explain it but what does it mean in the real world?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by terzo204
Anyone use them?

Having cricked my neck on more than one occasion (and having to performing an emergency stop whilst left foot breaking which lead to me staling) I now use left foot breaking ever day

However, WTF is heel and toeing?? Evo tryed to explain it but what does it mean in the real world?
It means using your heal to brake while you blip the throttle when changing gear with your toe. What it does is match the revs of the engine/gearbox to the speed of the car. Its what your syncro does however matching manually creates a real smooth gear change with little loss of revs.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by terzo204
Anyone use them?

Having cricked my neck on more than one occasion (and having to performing an emergency stop whilst left foot breaking which lead to me staling) I now use left foot breaking ever day

However, WTF is heel and toeing?? Evo tryed to explain it but what does it mean in the real world?
You use left foot braking every day?

Why?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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You use left foot braking every day?

Why?
Fair point. It's a little bit stupid as I could be caught out, but Picking your line and left foot breaking in the clio (the everyday car) makes the drive more challenging/fun
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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H&T is to match the drive train with engine to stop the driven wheels locking.

Left foot braking, it has many uses, the main one is to balance the car during cornering and can have excellent results on lap times if you know how to use it and conditions are right. Can also be used to build boost on turbo cars but not going to be good for the brakes.

To be honest neither are much use on the road unless you are going for a proper blat down a deserted (private) road Out of the two I use H&T in the wet as my car has LSD and is RWD and can lock up in the wet.

If you want to learn these techniques properly you need to spend some time with an instructor. Take a look at www.cadence.co.uk

But for road driving you would be much better to learn advanced road craft such as overtaking, urban vs rural techniques, car control etc
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by andy.downes
It means using your heal to brake while you blip the throttle when changing gear with your toe. What it does is match the revs of the engine/gearbox to the speed of the car. Its what your syncro does however matching manually creates a real smooth gear change with little loss of revs.
Surely that's the wrong way round

I use the ball of the foot on the brake, and shift the heel across to the accelerator to blip the throttle. It does help to make down-shifting smoother in everyday driving, and well as when pressing on.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Toes cover the brake. Then depending on how big your feet are and the setup of the accelerator your heel / mid sole area for gas (race drivers can often use the outside edge of their heel between their small toe and ankle IYSWIM). Modern road cars have hanging pedals too, which means you cant use your heel so much..
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...nd+toe&pl=true

Only thing I can find right now, I have a great clip of Hyla Breese driving an Elise with a camera in the pedal box showing heel and toe.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by andy.downes
It means using your heal to brake while you blip the throttle when changing gear with your toe. What it does is match the revs of the engine/gearbox to the speed of the car. Its what your syncro does however matching manually creates a real smooth gear change with little loss of revs.
Do you walk like a duck?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by billythekid
H&T is to match the drive train with engine to stop the driven wheels locking.

Left foot braking, it has many uses, the main one is to balance the car during cornering and can have excellent results on lap times if you know how to use it and conditions are right. Can also be used to build boost on turbo cars but not going to be good for the brakes.

To be honest neither are much use on the road unless you are going for a proper blat down a deserted (private) road Out of the two I use H&T in the wet as my car has LSD and is RWD and can lock up in the wet.

If you want to learn these techniques properly you need to spend some time with an instructor. Take a look at www.cadence.co.uk

But for road driving you would be much better to learn advanced road craft such as overtaking, urban vs rural techniques, car control etc
Thanks!

I tend to use left foot breaking to balance the car when at travelling at speed over a bumpy surface and when needing to break without shifting down.

I am keen to lear about driving techniques to exploit the true ability of my scoob. A lot of peaple on here think that to go faster you need better BHP and this is not always the case.

Billythekid - your knowledge in this area suggests to me you have had driver training yourself. Have you been on any courses?
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