Speeding - +/- 10% ???? URGENT!!
#1
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Someone I know has been served a NIP for doing 44 in a 40. Now as I understand it the law says your speedo can be inaccurate by 10% either way. Can she respond by stating this and therefore suggesting that she was doing 44 but speedo was showing 40? Has anyone ever tried this? Comments much appreciated, thanks!
[Edited by Nat21 - 25/10/2001 15:32:02]
[Edited by Nat21 - 25/10/2001 15:32:02]
#3
I'm not 100% sure, but I think that the speedo can only read 0/+10%, as in if the speedo reads 40, the car's OK if it's doing 36-40, but not 40-44.
44 in a 40 sounds a bit tight of them!
44 in a 40 sounds a bit tight of them!
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"Unofficial" guidelines by the Association of Cheif Police Officers are [Speed Limit]+[10%]+[2mph]=[Speed After Which You're Nicked]
However, those are unofficial & only a guideline. If they want to nick you, they will, as you have exceeded the speed limit.
What Police force was this that is taking its Public Relations so seriously?
However, those are unofficial & only a guideline. If they want to nick you, they will, as you have exceeded the speed limit.
What Police force was this that is taking its Public Relations so seriously?
#6
As has already been said, the speedo should only be inaccurate on the high side - claim otherwise and you'll probably be looking at an unroadworthy vehicle charge as well. If your friend is looking at a ban she could say she thought that was the case and probably get off (needs car for work, will lose job etc.), otherwise I really wouldn't argue this one.
It does seem incredibly strict though - I take it this was a fixed camera so she couldn't have done something else to attract attention?
All the best,
Dean
It does seem incredibly strict though - I take it this was a fixed camera so she couldn't have done something else to attract attention?
All the best,
Dean
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What Police force was this that is taking its Public Relations so seriously?
Judging by the location, Northants who else Remember they employ their own marketing department and treat road safety so seriously they put camera vans on those most dangerous of roads, motorways.
They also employ statistical engineers (PC term for liars) to manipulate the figures so that it looks like there was a massive drop in fatalities(like 20 odd) last year. It seems wiered to me that the drop last year was only 14 for the whole of the country.
[Edited by Neil Smalley - 10/25/2001 4:33:54 PM]
What Police force was this that is taking its Public Relations so seriously?
Judging by the location, Northants who else Remember they employ their own marketing department and treat road safety so seriously they put camera vans on those most dangerous of roads, motorways.
They also employ statistical engineers (PC term for liars) to manipulate the figures so that it looks like there was a massive drop in fatalities(like 20 odd) last year. It seems wiered to me that the drop last year was only 14 for the whole of the country.
[Edited by Neil Smalley - 10/25/2001 4:33:54 PM]
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I would advise her to respond to the NIP saying she isn't sure who was driving, and ask for a photo. Someone at the processing centre may see sense and drop the whole thing.
Whichever Police force is doing this, apart from ignoring ACPO guidelines, is rapidly going to alienate the community it serves, if it hasn't already.
[Edited by Jerome - 10/25/2001 5:11:36 PM]
Whichever Police force is doing this, apart from ignoring ACPO guidelines, is rapidly going to alienate the community it serves, if it hasn't already.
[Edited by Jerome - 10/25/2001 5:11:36 PM]
#9
I thought the 10% thing was also to cover inaccuracies in their reading equipment?
Go through the usual process of requesting calibration evidence etc (see previous threads on how to be a nuisance to the local plods).
Gordo
Go through the usual process of requesting calibration evidence etc (see previous threads on how to be a nuisance to the local plods).
Gordo
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Thanks for the responses guys, Neil...you are right it was in Northampton, Mere way dual carriageway outside the Police/fire stations, caught by camera van. Takes the **** when I accidently overtook an unmarked Omega along there at about 50mph a couple of weeks ago. Stopped at lights at roundabout and it pulled up next to me...looked accross to see two officers, they didn't even glance at me.
I think she might be invited to attend one of Nor-pols "speed awareness" courses instead of points on licence though which is good.
I think she might be invited to attend one of Nor-pols "speed awareness" courses instead of points on licence though which is good.
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She could always write a polite letter to the Chief Constable or similar expressing her surprise at such a rigid enforcement of the law, and whether he could personally explain the force's guidelines for speeding tolerances allowed.
If he has half a brain, he will realise the kind of damage such over-zealous Policing will do, let your friend off and bollock the persons who were operating the trap in the first place!
mb
If he has half a brain, he will realise the kind of damage such over-zealous Policing will do, let your friend off and bollock the persons who were operating the trap in the first place!
mb
#16
Hi,
The law doesnt actually state 10%+2 but it is an unwritten rule if you gently!quote Gently argue your case you will get away with a chastising letter and that will be that!failing that get your local speedo expert to adjust your speedo to under read (easy enough with the right expert!)Then ask the so called police expert to have your speedo calibrated!(OH DEAR its not showing the correct miles per hour!officer!!)
If you are stuck to get someone to sort it let me know and i know just the man!(should i say this in public?)
Regards
Simon
The law doesnt actually state 10%+2 but it is an unwritten rule if you gently!quote Gently argue your case you will get away with a chastising letter and that will be that!failing that get your local speedo expert to adjust your speedo to under read (easy enough with the right expert!)Then ask the so called police expert to have your speedo calibrated!(OH DEAR its not showing the correct miles per hour!officer!!)
If you are stuck to get someone to sort it let me know and i know just the man!(should i say this in public?)
Regards
Simon
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