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Old 15 April 2006, 10:54 AM
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If your car is doing 6000RPM then parts in your engine are turning and moving 100 times every second .... My brain simply can't fathom something moving that quickly ......
Old 15 April 2006, 10:57 AM
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Like when you type a message on the internet to Australia - it gets there instantly!!

But electrons have to move all that distance - you would end up in my nuthouse with me if you thought about it too much!!

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Old 15 April 2006, 10:58 AM
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Just thought I would start the thread before I left home to watch the might Pompey stuff Boro .........
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Just thought I would start the thread before I left home to watch the might Pompey stuff Boro .........
I'm down there tomorrow - my brother is watching the game today (he lives in Climping).

Cheer the BORO on for me!! When is kick-off??

Boro will have their likkle kiddies out and their old 'not-so-goods' - expect to see Maccarone up front and a bunch of 17 year olds behind!

You will win no doubt

Enjoy the match!!

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3pm kick off ...... I'll be in the Milton end, uncovered, next to your lot .... Hope it doesn't bloody rain.
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
If your car is doing 6000RPM then parts in your engine are turning and moving 100 times every second .... My brain simply can't fathom something moving that quickly ......
You are lacking imagination mate - your turbo could be doing over 100,000 rpm - try and imagine that!
Old 15 April 2006, 11:33 AM
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Then try thinking about the speed of light and the space/time continuum, and how it affects our perception of our universe and beyond!
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Originally Posted by robsw
Then try thinking about the speed of light and the space/time continuum, and how it affects our perception of our universe and beyond!
And when you look out into space you are actually looking into the past seeing stars that are actually not there anymore. While you ponder this also consider how insignificant the earth and it's inhabitants are in a universal context!
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Portsmouth should stay up now
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
If your car is doing 6000RPM then parts in your engine are turning and moving 100 times every second .... My brain simply can't fathom something moving that quickly ......
The crank is rotating 100 times a second, but the number of reciprocations depends on the type of engine (4 stroke, 2 stroke) and how many cylidners and valves it has.

It is totally mental to think about it though!
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
The crank is rotating 100 times a second, but the number of reciprocations depends on the type of engine (4 stroke, 2 stroke) and how many cylidners and valves it has.

It is totally mental to think about it though!
I think you should apply some more thought to that statement!
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Originally Posted by robsw
Then try thinking about the speed of light and the space/time continuum, and how it affects our perception of our universe and beyond!
Old 15 April 2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
I think you should apply some more thought to that statement!
Number of reciprocations is the same. Number of power strokes vary per 2 or 4 stroke. Valve gear in 4 stroke runs at half the speed.
If you think 6k is fast in a 4 stroke just consider the latest F1 engines turning at 20k! Fancy mapping one of those??
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At 6k the 2ltr. engines piston does 0 to 33.5 mph (rounded) in 0.0025 sec. (How sad's that for a Saturday afternoon )

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Sorry to bring this back from the dead (been away over easter) but im intrigued by this statement from Davey, as he seems to be knowledgeable.

Originally Posted by [Davey]
The crank is rotating 100 times a second, but the number of reciprocations depends on the type of engine (4 stroke, 2 stroke) and how many cylidners and valves it has.
How does this work then Davey? 100 RPS in a 2 stroke = 200 reciprications, 100 RPS in a 4 stroke = 400 reciprications.

Could you give us a formula for this involving number of valves/cylinders etc?
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Is this thread about RPM or football? if the latter then surely it should be in the sports forum and not cluttering up general
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Originally Posted by p1mark
Sorry to bring this back from the dead (been away over easter) but im intrigued by this statement from Davey, as he seems to be knowledgeable.



How does this work then Davey? 100 RPS in a 2 stroke = 200 reciprications, 100 RPS in a 4 stroke = 400 reciprications.

Could you give us a formula for this involving number of valves/cylinders etc?
Dont worry I'm talking out of my ****.. Obviously every revolution will mean every piston will have recipricated once (obviously the starting and rest point depends on what position the crank was in when you started turning it), same with the valves.

I was thinking more along the lines of how many moving parts not how often they move, forgive me for being a dick.
Old 18 April 2006, 05:05 PM
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i think that at 18,000 rpm a piston in an F1 car travels at 25 m/s, imagine the stresses on the bigend!
Old 18 April 2006, 05:29 PM
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Just think, space has always been here and always will be!!
Old 18 April 2006, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobygav555
Just think, space has always been here and always will be!!
Not always, only the last fifteen billion years according to the big bang theorists.
Old 18 April 2006, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Like when you type a message on the internet to Australia - it gets there instantly!!

But electrons have to move all that distance - you would end up in my nuthouse with me if you thought about it too much!!

Pete
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.....

Any engineer would know that the electrons themselves don't move all that distance, the "motion" is transfered from one electron to the next. Think of it like a very long train with lots of carridges. As the engine on one end of the train pushes the motion is transfered from carridge to carridge via the couplings eventually resulting in the carridge furthest away from the engine moving. Same goes for electrons in electricity cable.

Of course sending a message on the Internet to Australia is a very bad example as the "electrons" have to pass through all sorts of media more than likely getting turned into light at some point for transfer through fibre optics.

Back to school for you Lewis
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When the engine crankshaft turns 360 degrees it is one Revolution. The number of times the engine does this in a minute is the RPM.
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