bill.

first off, hi all, i currently own a 2wd 420bhp sapphire cossie, its cost me 5k in a year and a half on rebuilds and repairs,(and it still isn't right) so i have now decided enough is enough and it will be getting sold in the near future, as fast as it is, the car will be used as my daily driver, so needsto be reliable, i will be getting a classic shape scooby, (wish i had bought one in the first place) i am after a 4 door wrx sti. but i would like to know a few things:

1. will a modded scooby be as unreliable as my cossie?

2. has your modded scooby been reliable?

3. what kind of power would a scooby have to run to get similar performance to my cossie? (given the 4 x 4 transmission loss)

4. how many miles to the gallon will a modded scoob do, driven sensibly?

thanks

bill

ps. anywhere i can find out about models/specs to narrow down which car to get?

cheers

frayz

iTrader: (7)

Ive done exactly what youre asking mate,

I went from a 343bhp 350lbsft 4x4 saff cos to a standard 02 WRX STI prodrive.
My saff run on 17s

0-60 in 4.2sec
0-100 in 10.9 sec
standing qtr in 12.5 @ 110mph and run on to over 170mph on GPS

My saff was MUCH MUCH faster, than the scoob. However i love the drive in the scoob, the noise, the way it feels on the road and with a few mods i will see similar power figures.

I cant comment on your reliability issues as my cossie engine was built for over 400bhp and never once let me down... ever in over 18 months.

The scoob is a much nicer package in my opinion and as far as im aware you'll have very few reliability issues with a well looked after impreza.

Few things will feel as fast as a 420bhp 2 wheeler mate but then again you wont have your bonnet up at the side of the road half as often.

My advise would be get yourself a light classic maybe a type R and get it to about 330bhp.

It will be fun and reasonably reliable if looked after.

Test drive a few and make your decisions from there.

Hope that helps

Jay_bee

iTrader: (1)

Hi,

1. No, not if its done correctly and looked after properly.

2. Yes

3. What kind of performance are you talking about? 1/4 mile times?
Getting 420bhp out of a Scoob aint cheap, but Id say a 420bhp scoob would destroy the cossie. Last year, my 320ish bhp Type R did a 12.65 at Elvington, oh, and I left a cossie for dead (although Im not sure what bhp it was)

4. Scoob... drive sensibly... why? LOL On a serious note, probably about
23ish (motorway driving @ 80 - 85mph)


It could do with updating but as you mention, you're after a classic:
FAQ

bill.

wish i had your reliability mate with the cossie, like i say as fast as it is i cant justify spending any more money on it, 330 bhp sounds like a nice figure, if its reliable, do they do 4 door type r's?

bill.

with regards to performance i'm talking on the roads, i realise a scooby would be quicker over the 1/4 mile or from low speed acceleration, but i doubt a 420 bhp scooby would destroy a 420bhp 2wd cossie 3rd gear onwards, nice 1/4 mile time btw, 23 mpg aint to bad either, i could live with that

frayz

iTrader: (7)

no mate a type R is a Jap import and is a 2 door only as far as im aware.

Its the jap version of a P1.

If its definitly a 4 door youre after then a late sti will be more up your street. Maybe a late version 5 or 6.

Im not really that up on the classic shape versions as id like to be but there are plenty of helpful faces around here who will point you in the right direction.

bill.

cheers for the faq link, just checking it out now

ta

Dspeed

The RA, Race Altered model is a 4 door, light weight model. I was working on a very nice example yesterday with 330 bhp. I think this could be very much up your street mate.

Tidgy

4wd looses 26% of power through gearbox and running gear 2wd is abuot 15% as i undertand so thats where your differences come in performance wise

bill.

there seems to be quite a few of those in the autotrader, and there within my budget, so you may have hit the nail on the head there only one thing, are these the ones with tha altered gear ratio's? what do they top out at? i've heard 120mph? dont want to run out of steam to early.

bill.

thats not as bad as i thought, i have been led to believe it was more like a third, my sapphire was rolling roaded at 397 bhp, at the fly wheel, and 296 bhp at the wheels, ( before i put bigger injectors in ) so that seemed like a big loss,

cheers

Dspeed

Yes they are. My friends states that his will do 145MPH. But he bought his quite well speced and that could be why. Others on here would be able to give u a more definitive answer. You could always rectify this at a later date tho. As apart from that it would apear to be wt u are looking for.

Jay_bee

iTrader: (1)

Bill,

If its a 4 door you have to have, the one to go for is def an Type RA STi. The Type R is a 2 door only, as someone correctly pointed out but its not a Jap version of the P1. The P1 is a watered down Type R <zips up flamesuit> with limited production run of 1000. Dont get me wrong, I love P1's but the Type R is a little bit more edgy... which I like

Get an RA, you'll be very impressed Im sure.

All the best and welcome to SN

J

frayz

iTrader: (7)

Although i said that the Type R was the jap version of the P1 thats not exactly what i meant.

Chances are that bill here is new to the land of scoobs and would more than likely know about a P1 as opposed to a type R.

I was more trying to point out that they are similar,

Thats how i based my comparisson.

Jay is right though mate, try the RA

Mangel

I'm an ex rs500 owner, The cossie was animal but kept tryin to throw me into the scenery all the time.

I now have a new WRX with a p Pack and a few other bits and its a really nice car as either a daily driver or a blaster!!!! Plus a few mate have your other alternative, EVO, and they seen to suffer from the same cossie reliability syndrome!!!

bill.

thanks for your comments/advice guys, you seem to be pointing me in the direction of a ra sti, i was on the verge of getting a 2 door type r just before i bought the **** heap,( sorry i mean sapphire ) but for some unknown reason i opted for a cossie, anyway, time to look ahead now, i've got used to having a large 4 door saloon, so the sti ra fits the bill perfectly,

could someone post me a pic up of one please

cheers

Dspeed

Hoe bout this.
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=461922

How they look minus the plate position and the front mount. No skirts etc.

bill.

looks cool mate, and looks like your having fun!

Dspeed

Not me Im afraid mate! Think James was tho!