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Old 24 January 2006, 02:20 PM
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just a quick question.......got a classic 94 import wrx running scoobyecu,decat,filter,exhaust so expecting around the 270-280 mark.
apparantly my particular model only weighs 1200kg due to plastic bonnet,cardboard doors etc...being an import,so all the sti ppp newbys which are throwing around the 330 mark out,but weighing a portly 1450kg,should be nothing in it really performance wise?
never come up against one yet to compare? any one know ?

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oh dear ....here we go again
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
oh dear ....here we go again
Oh no we don't, we've settled this previously: "Me 1.2 Nova blow you all away, 4real!!"

Sorted!

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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
oh dear ....here we go again
Since the dawn of time, old is better.

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So Subaru are wasting their time continually trying to improve on the original.

I mean the adding more bhp and torque, better handling (wow drive a post 04 and experience on raiils joy), more engine refinement, quieter cockpit and improved fuel consumption
- what where they thinking off!

I'm sure the pre 2000 folks will be along in a moment to explain why (don't take this too seriously I'm only jesting; but every car forum people claim their car is better then anything new).

Anyone want to bring back Maggie Thatcher and 8 track tapes ?

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Originally Posted by mikepaul

Anyone want to bring back Maggie Thatcher back ?
In preference to Blair, yes, actually!

Bad analogy mate!
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Ok everyone ....... no more replies please. Let this one sneak to the next page and into oblivion
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Okay, I can't resist this... according to those figures the newer scooby comes in at 227bhp/tonne, and yours is 233bhp/tonne so yes it looks like it could have an advantage. And lighter cars always have the braking / manuevrability advantage (Caterham, etc...) but the real advantage of a classic is... it looks better !
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Sorry Gutmann, took too long to write that last post! I'll shut up now...
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Originally Posted by nelboy75
just a quick question.......got a classic 94 import wrx running scoobyecu,decat,filter,exhaust so expecting around the 270-280 mark.
apparantly my particular model only weighs 1200kg due to plastic bonnet,cardboard doors etc...being an import,so all the sti ppp newbys which are throwing around the 330 mark out,but weighing a portly 1450kg,should be nothing in it really performance wise?
never come up against one yet to compare? any one know ?
Shame you didnt live a bit closer, I would have been more then happy to help you with your scientific research.
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I assume fitting a larger dump valve will make the car much faster, yes?







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out of 9 replies.
1 has had the decency to try and answer and not take the ****.
am beginning to wonder whether the" all the scoobynet forum are pisstakers" brigade are speaking sense.
answers not "has it got a big dump valve" etc ...etc... thanks
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Originally Posted by nelboy75
out of 9 replies.
1 has had the decency to try and answer and not take the ****.
am beginning to wonder whether the" all the scoobynet forum are pisstakers" brigade are speaking sense.
answers not "has it got a big dump valve" etc ...etc... thanks
Go to www.sidc.co.uk and ask the same question. Will get lots of sensible replies there.
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the newage has its advantages... the bodyshell is a lot stiffer, can run more power through its shell and handles better..... is also more refined on the road with a better cabin. The classics are lighter and therefore faster but i know which id prefer to have an accident in. The debate can go for ages and i have deliberated myself many times
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new looks better to obivsouly, but thats choise. thing the old one is well hard though
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OK being as though you are asking a question..... before it can be answered let us know what your talking about ..........???

Drag strip
Race track
0-60
0-100
In gear acceleration

Of course none of the questions can actually be answered because it 100% depends on the driver.

You'll have to excuse our stupid answers but when there is no way of answering its hard to try.

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Originally Posted by nelboy75
out of 9 replies.
1 has had the decency to try and answer and not take the ****.
am beginning to wonder whether the" all the scoobynet forum are pisstakers" brigade are speaking sense.
answers not "has it got a big dump valve" etc ...etc... thanks
i seem to remember reading a feature a while back that ran a P1,spec c and i think a normal new shape sti around a track and like you say the power to weight should make it a fairly fair fight.

the P1 took a pasting. and i think it was up on power from std and was loosing a fair bit of time per lap.

power to weight doesn't always help it seems if you've got some new eletronic gadgetry to help you go round corners


as for the **** taking, there's been alot of 'my cars faster than yours' threads posted by newbies recently and while your first post seemed an ok question to ask to me, i think a few people were expecting the usual.
and as for scoobynet being a bunch of **** takers, i notice you haven't had PS Lewis post on your thread yet. now that's a real **** taker
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cheers for the answers but 1 more question ......................................
WHO is p lewis? saw his name mentioned loads on scoobynet?
is he a serial **** taker? and if so why dont moderators ban him?
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Originally Posted by nelboy75
cheers for the answers but 1 more question ......................................
WHO is p lewis? saw his name mentioned loads on scoobynet?
is he a serial **** taker? and if so why dont moderators ban him?
Oh he'll be along soon. The nurse is just jump starting him again then he'll be right here.

Just never say his name 5 times in the same breath !

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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
In preference to Blair, yes, actually!

Bad analogy mate!
Are you seriously suggesting Blair is as bad as "sack 'em all" Thatcher!?
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