Impreza-2005

Hi all, I've justed been on an old forum I used to go on regularly, and a guy on there has sold his 53 plate WRX for a brand new Astra VXR.
The only thing is he's stating it's quicker then his WRX and it's not even run in properly yet.
Well i'm interested cos I cancelled my VXR order for a 05 WRX and i'm very happy, but was wondering if anyone has been up against one of these yet as the new owners are taking delivery?

Gutmann pug

Astra has more power and probably lighter two? So yeah I would suggest it will be quicker in gear.

drsuess

all i ve heard about the vxr is that it torque steers allover the place

jockc79

its only two wheel drive anything over 220bhp is a waste never match a wrx and a wrx has more power than it vxr has 240bhp wrx 260+

Gutmann pug

Wow I didnt realise the new wrx had 260BHP

errrrrr incorrect information I think my friend........

Gary

jockc79

i have a 95 wrx import that has 260 bhp what do the new ones have the dealers say the new wrx has 265bhp

DarrenSTI

iTrader: (3)

260bhp with a PPP fitted. I was thinking about the Astra VXR, over an Impreza, but thought a 4wd car would be better in the long run. As it has been said already 240bhp going through the front wheels .

Plus I have a mk3 GSI, so a chance from Vauxhall's would be great,

Just want the flat 4 burble .

Gutmann pug

Er no the WRX STi has 262 as std. The WRX is 220 or some such piffling amount

So back to the original question, same weight but the VXR has more power. WRX quicker off the line due to AWD then the VXR should kick its ****

Plus I like the look of the new VXR...........

Gary

jockc79

well my wrx is 260 so he will get a good veiw of the back of my car as i dissapear in the distance the new wrx sti is 305bhp unless subaru are lieing to everyone

bob r

iTrader: (46)

scooby owners just cant accept that other cars may be quicker than theirs, unless its an evo but i must admit im not happy with the idea that a vauxhall astra may be quicker than my scoob

jockc79

a 240 2 wheel drive is not quicker than a 260 awd

Gutmann pug

Well you may prove me wrong about that as the older MY03/04/05 cars were only 262BHP or 305 when fitted with PPP. Not sure about the new MY06 bhp as std though.......

Wet twisties will be mentioned soon me thinks......

Gary

Gutmann pug

BUT IT NOT 260 its 220 ..........read the original thread starter and get it right

bob r

iTrader: (46)

sburu are not lying mate, you have your facts wrong, wrx standard about 225, 260 with ppp, sti 265 standard, 305 with ppp, unless subaru are telling more porkys

jockc79

mine is a 95 wrx import maybe u should go for import they have more power than the uk models better spec to

Gutmann pug

Mine is a 2003 non import and its bigger than yours ner ner

Dave_68

The new STi is 276 MY06. MY03's are 261 or 301 with PPP. Don't underestimate weight advantage..I had an S1 Elise with only 131BHP but only weighed 740KG & that was quite nippy

Elmer Fudpucker

did you stamp your foot as you said that?

John57

Isn't the VXR about 15.5 to 100 mph according to one of the recent tests ? And a MY05 WRX about .... 15.5 ? And to 60 a WRX 5.8, VXR 6.2.

In a straight line it's more likely to be neck and neck. In gear may be different but if you get a 'good' VXR and a 'Friday afternoon' WRX ?

I drive BMW's at work ....all exactly the same model - with a choice of about 15 to pick from ..... and they do vary considerably in performance terms. I think the same applies to all cars if you get a good one ...... and thats all without mentioning the driver element!

jockc79

yeah i did stamped it in a huff
the importcars are lighter than the uk models we will just have to wait to see when the vauxhall gets on the road and someone races one lets face it the scooby looks and sounds better

pj748r

sold my 02 astra sri turbo(197bhp) for a 05 WRX,astra was quick.slightly better fuel economy,thru the twisties,wet etc(all the usual)wouldn't know which way the wrx went(and lets face it,we spend a good 70% of the year in the wet in this poor excuse of a country!).
I seriously thought about ordering a VXR,great looking car,especially in black!(can get partners discount,which they wouldn't allow on the VXR),waited until the car mags reviewed it,glad I didn't buy it in the end.Had 2 years of torque steer and got fed up of it.
VXR will probably paste the WRX in gear,but thats not everything is it!

Gutmann pug

Looks better ..........pmsl

Races one on the roads .............pmsl

import cars lighter ................ pmsl

sorry mate you say some funny stuff

Gary

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

ppp'd sti should still blow it away though. tha vxr is 1394kg so its a fairly heavy car .still like the look of them though

flynnstudio

Get one of the last 3 wrx300's left on sale - comes with ppp which makes it 265bhp - 100kgs lighter than the sti and is 4.8 0-62 !!!

gljam

how much power does the vxr lose through its drivetrain??

corradoboy

Couldn't see the VXR on TG's lap board, but the STi did a 1:30.1 with the WR1 (ie. PPP) clocked a 1:29.4. The Focus ST, which seems a suitable comparison to the VXR comes in at 1:32.2. If you consider that the extra 40bhp of a WR1 over a std STi gives it 0.7, then a std WRX with IRO 225bhp should maybe achieve 1:30.9 although the better suspension, gearing, brakes and steering will probably add another few 10th's. I'd say that on TG's track a WRX and a VXR would be fairly level. In the real world however, I'd say the 4WD, grip and taught chassis in a WRX would eat the 2WD VXR on most good drivers roads. Add a PPP and some choice suspension mods and the VXR would be left for dead. IMHO.

jockc79

my import has lighter doors lighter boot lid lighter bonnet take it u have a uk model total my car weights 1210kg

EddScott

In real world terms theres not much in it once rolling. I've chased an 03 STI before in my mildly tweaked UK classic and it didn't get away. I've also had a Leon R stuck to my rear bumper and it would not go away so read into BHP figures what you want.

Personally I hate Vauxhall even though I like the VXR. Would never buy one again.

On the road its not the car that wins its usually who bottles first - not the safest way to drive I must admit.

Gutmann pug

You are obviously talking about classics rather than new age which is what the thread is about.

New age are the same unless you buy a spec C

jockc79

so classics are better then that what ur saying