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Old 12 December 2005, 09:15 PM
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hoping to buy my mates p1 shortly, but in the unfortunate event that i cannot raise enough cash i am looking for an alternative, dont know anything about classic sti but think this car could be closest to it . anyway what they like as much info as poss would be great
Old 12 December 2005, 09:39 PM
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Take a look at type r corner in members gallery........plenty of info on P1 competition.
Old 12 December 2005, 10:05 PM
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cheers, but want something specific, im sure there must be some owners out there that wanna gloat about how good they are
Old 12 December 2005, 10:16 PM
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Hello mate i used to own a type R version 4 until the engine blew up and i sold it after 6 months as i lost faith in the car. think that was down to the half whit i bought it off drilled a whole in the water expension tank when putting the new style bumper n and all the coolant ran out without him realising and melting the piston. wish i knew then what i no now.

Anyway, before all that happenend it was a class car, with ita short gearing it went like **** off a stick, only thing was in top gear driving it was loud and drank the feul and if i can remember 80 mph was nearly 5000 rpm on the rev counter. P1 has the longer gearing which in some respects better for long ditance but u loose the power lower down. thats why i like the 6 speed box in my current STi as u get the best of both worlds.

but yes the 5/6 are lovely looking cars and fast as fu*k.
i would get it mapped for uk fuel tho as it can cook the engine if its not.

hope this helps

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Old 12 December 2005, 10:22 PM
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There are many types of classic sti.......need to be more specific about which variant your looking for before you get owners gloating about them.

Like i said,research the Type r corner,loads of info on alternative to p1.
Old 12 December 2005, 10:28 PM
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from your reply i assume that all classic sti s are type rs or ra s? or is there a stock sti, which i think will be suitable, dont think i could cope with 120 tops, and remaps etc.
Old 12 December 2005, 10:43 PM
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No all classic sti,s are not r/ra,s.The p1 is based on the sti type r hense why i pointed you in that direction.
Old 12 December 2005, 10:48 PM
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in short - the P1 is a 2 door, as are the type r's. The Sti V5/6's are 4 door saloons (I have a V5. I think the engine in the V's is the same as the P1 but could be mistaken.

mine is pretty fast as stock but has sensible 4 doors......

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...co/wheels1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...co/wheels3.jpg
Old 12 December 2005, 10:50 PM
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Wahey another stockie boy on here, get to the northern section mate and check out the SMACS meets

Use the search function on here mate and do research on them, a P1 is based on a version 5 type R but "tamed" down for the british roads. No DCCD on a P1 as on a version 5. IMO if you want an agressive car go for the type R but if you want better residuals then go for the P1!

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Old 12 December 2005, 10:51 PM
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P.S an STI Type R has three doors and an STI Type RA has 4 doors!
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cheers guys i know it is probably like pullin teeth but i think the sti is the one im interested in (not r/ra) any body know out about them? (sti not r/ra). is there a uk sti (classic) what is the power output? performance figures ?do they suffer similar p1 engine probs. i have 02 wrx which is abit tame 4 me but dont wanna go to daft with an r/ra. am i borin anybody yet. ?.
Old 12 December 2005, 11:31 PM
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The uk only ever got the models: (There was also the Catalunya/Terzo, but these the models you need to worry about)

Turbo 2000 - 208-215 bhp 4dr
RB5 4dr-same i think but many had ppp (prodrive performance pack) fitted giving 240bhp.
P1 2door based on sti 5 type r (280bhp)

All wrx/sti's are imports in classic form (upto 2000/2001)
I have an sti 4 (1998) 4 door. Put it on the dyno when standard and gave 293bhp.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Photo-0027.jpg
Old 12 December 2005, 11:32 PM
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Bob

If you can take the stick of having a MY02 bugeye WRX there's lots of things you can do to make it an Sti / P1 Killer

There's loads of people near you who can help ..........

Midlife.....
Old 13 December 2005, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
The uk only ever got the models: (There was also the Catalunya/Terzo, but these the models you need to worry about)

Turbo 2000 - 208-215 bhp 4dr
RB5 4dr-same i think but many had ppp (prodrive performance pack) fitted giving 240bhp.
P1 2door based on sti 5 type r (280bhp)

All wrx/sti's are imports in classic form (upto 2000/2001)
I have an sti 4 (1998) 4 door. Put it on the dyno when standard and gave 293bhp.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Photo-0027.jpg
cheers m8 think im getting somewhere. nice car by the way. i take it the sti needs remap to cope with uk fuel ? any other probs to look out for?
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Bob

If you can take the stick of having a MY02 bugeye WRX there's lots of things you can do to make it an Sti / P1 Killer

There's loads of people near you who can help ..........

Midlife.....
unfortunately mate, after driving the p1 dont know if ill ever be content with mine, however mechanically ive not a problem with new age cars, and when parked next to decent classics it doesnt quite float me boat. (i dont think ill ever be content).
Old 13 December 2005, 02:47 AM
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All i can say is try a classic sti import. I've recently acquired a sti v2 import and its an absolute hoot. The car is far from refined in my opinion (usually interior rattle, noisy top end) but thats not owning a sti is about, these machines are raw and handle like go-karts. Pay slightly more and get a good example is my final advice.
Old 13 December 2005, 08:40 AM
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The Type R is an STI. Type RA [Rally Altered]is an extreme version of the STI, loosing bits of comfort, the Type R version, may be wrong, is the V-ltd, with roof vent etc.
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Originally Posted by Swen6
The Type R is an STI. Type RA [Rally Altered]is an extreme version of the STI, loosing bits of comfort, the Type R version, may be wrong, is the V-ltd, with roof vent etc.
You can get the Type-R in 3 versions:

WRX Type-R (closest model to the P1 - without DCCD but with ABS)
WRX STi Type-R
WRX STi Type-R V-Limited (same as normal STi but with Roof Vent)

The classic STi models come in 6 variants:

Type-R
4 Door Saloon
Type-RA
Wagon
S201
22B

All classic STi's will need to be re-mapped for UK fuel.
Old 13 December 2005, 10:01 AM
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I have run my sti 4 for 2 years (12K) on optimax. Not had a remap, just had it checked on the rolling road (power engineering) to make sure it was running ok when I bought it.
Had no problems and curently on 72K.
Old 13 December 2005, 08:14 PM
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Dont forget the ra with 2 doors.....
Old 13 December 2005, 08:30 PM
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The thing with the fuelling is that potentially it can cause problems and you'll never know until it goes....

if you plan on keeping the car for a long time, get a decat on it and get it remapped for uk fuel - will also free up some ponies with the decat etc etc.

Alternatively, just get some octane booster and use optimax. If you look at the P1 as basically an import but with a UK tag - ure about there...

Dunno if I'm right but didn't the P1's start out as Type R's originally????

A nice, low milage V6 (4 door 1st - Type R if I had the wonga) that was imported new to the UK and has massive history would be my ideal buy - you need someone who has looked after it while they've had it.

As far as I know, you can't register these in the UK if you import one now as there isn't a model report available unless things have moved on in the last few months...
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I imported my Type-R STI V5 into the UK 3 weeks ago. The Department of Transport told me it was the last one allowed to be imported, Registered and SVA'd in the UK. I didn't need a model report because of my special circumstances, ie. job!

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thanks for the replys and useful info
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Ive got a 1999(T plate)type r v6 but have seen type r s on a 99 T plate beening v5, is there any differance, i also have a roof vent on mine and have been told its a v- limited but theres no limited edition plate inside to say it is , any help!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by CyprusScooby
You can get the Type-R in 3 versions:

WRX Type-R (closest model to the P1 - without DCCD but with ABS)
WRX STi Type-R
WRX STi Type-R V-Limited (same as normal STi but with Roof Vent)

The classic STi models come in 6 variants:

Type-R
4 Door Saloon
Type-RA
Wagon
S201
22B

All classic STi's will need to be re-mapped for UK fuel.

There was also a WRX Type-R V limited,also had the roof vent but not an STi.

Ralph
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Originally Posted by kezzy Babe
Ive got a 1999(T plate)type r v6 but have seen type r s on a 99 T plate beening v5, is there any differance, i also have a roof vent on mine and have been told its a v- limited but theres no limited edition plate inside to say it is , any help!!!!!!!
99 was when the V6 was introduced (november I think). Are you sure ures is a V6?

The one you've got sounds like a V5 type r limited which was actually much closer to std - on sale until march 99 with the roof vent on....which is more like what you've described. This one had the red inserts on the seats...

A WRX Type R STi Version VI Limited should have the following:

blue dash and console inserts
aliminium pedals
(full) blue front seats
STi titanium gear ****
roof vent
pink six star badge

Curiously tho, there should be a nubered plaque somewhere as there was only 1000 made..

HTH
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in fact, I've just seen a pic or yours and it looks like a Version V....

Here's my 4 door V5...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...o/DSC01810.jpg

and a pic of a V6

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/Horico/V6.jpg

Notice the major difference on the front bumper - the V6 has a deeper splitter - all shared with the type r versions
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thanks for your help, a least i know what iam driving now, type r v5 limited, Bloody women ay!!!!
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Originally Posted by scoobygav555
Wahey another stockie boy on here, get to the northern section mate and check out the SMACS meets

Use the search function on here mate and do research on them, a P1 is based on a version 5 type R but "tamed" down for the british roads. No DCCD on a P1 as on a version 5. IMO if you want an agressive car go for the type R but if you want better residuals then go for the P1!

Gav..
the P1 is based on the 4dr v5 sti, Prodrive tweaked the set up for the UK and put it all together in a 2dr shell. hth.

ian
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Originally Posted by scoobygav555
P.S an STI Type R has three doors
Wrong again.

An Sti Type R has 2 doors and a boot - a 3 door car has a hatchback like a Civic, which Subaru hasn't made so far, although next year's model sadly looks like it might be one.
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