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Old 20 November 2005, 12:08 PM
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Default STi or not sti, that is the question ? ?

I have an Imports WRX STI wagon on a 1994.
Its an imports.
It has all the sti stuff, seat, strut brace on front, ic water spray, identification plate being number 183/200, twin rear spoiler etc.

Now some guy is saying its not an STi cause the spoiler is too small, and its not got white dials, and it doesnt have a red top engine ?

Can someone explain as i'm new to this !!

What have i got ??

cheers
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Old 20 November 2005, 12:12 PM
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He is a ****; ignore him. Early cars didnt have a red-coloured inlet manifold and the big spoiler came with the later series-production cars. The number 183/200 indicates that its one of the last cars manufactured out of the second production run.

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Old 20 November 2005, 12:30 PM
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Cheers! thought it was strange that its badged up etc and not an STi.


What power would it be running then, 250 bhp ?

WIll it have aluminuim panels?

Steel crank and forged pistons?

I was worried !!!!
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Originally Posted by GC8
He is a ****; ignore him. Early cars didnt have a red-coloured inlet manifold and the big spoiler came with the later series-production cars. The number 183/200 indicates that its one of the last cars manufactured out of the second production run.

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Precisely.
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250PS on Japanese premium unleaded fuel, which was about 99RON in 1994 I believe.


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Aluminium bonnet; forged pistons only; although Chris Rees' book mistakenly states thay hey have a forged crank.


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Worrying things is he's an importer !!! Obviously thinks he knows more than he does !!
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Originally Posted by GC8
He is a ****; ignore him. Early cars didnt have a red-coloured inlet manifold and the big spoiler came with the later series-production cars. The number 183/200 indicates that its one of the last cars manufactured out of the second production run.

Simon
Yeah ur spot on there (for a change *ahem*)
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Thankyou Tony; but if you look back youll see that Im usually right, because I only post on subjects where I know what Im talking about rather than just think I do (about cars that is, the rests all bollocks).

The only issue on which we have disagreed is petrol; and whilst I dont dispute that youve got friends whove done high mileages on 95RON: I still dont think that you should encourage people to try it.

Dai, with regard to 'importers'; I import cars from Japan myself (which I buy at auction) and in my experience most so-called importers dont even know where Japan is; let alone how to export a car from there and import it into Britain! You be surprised how many know f*ck-all about the cars (and indeed; most things) which they buy from ****e docks auctions: and dont even get me started on people who bought a car off an internet site ffs!


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Default Red top - non red top

so, whats the difference between the 2???
Old 20 November 2005, 06:57 PM
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If you mean the two production runs; then little beyond the plaque. Subaru built 100 of each variant and was pleasantly surprised when they all sold out; so they commisioned a second 'production-run' of a further 200 vehicles of each variant.


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Old 20 November 2005, 06:59 PM
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Hold on; I see that your questions defined by the title. The 'red tops' had the inlet manifold painted in a red crackle finish because it looks nice; theres nothing more to it than that. So much bollocks is talked about 'red top' engines like theyre the nirvana of internal combustion but its a bit of marketing dress-up and nothing more.


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Thanks Simon, yeah thats what i ment. So its nothing to do with power etc. like the Nissan Sr20 with had a red and a black top.

People seem to be going on about red top like its worth 40 more bhp or something !!

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How much power is a v2 STI RA then? And can i tell if it's an STI from the AMN?
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The difference between a standard EJ20 and an STI improved EJ20 was 10PS in the early engines, 15PS on the C-Series cars and possibly 20PS on the later cars, even though they were all officially quoted as having 280PS, they were rumoured to prodouce 300PS.....
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Originally Posted by tath
How much power is a v2 STI RA then? And can i tell if it's an STI from the AMN?
Theyre both the same and yes you can:

GC8 2000cc Impreza saloon
C The model year identifier; Subaru made 2 C-Series car just to confuse us 1995 and 1996*
4 The number of doors
8D WRX
7D WRX Type-RA
ED STI
DD STI Type-RA

The 1995 STI Type-RA was altered from a production WRX -Type-RA and it shares its AMN: GC8C47D
The 1996 STI2 Type-RA was a series production car and as such, it has its own unique AMN: GC8C4DD


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* refers to the model year which is built between September and August usually, so a MY96 car may have been built in September/October 1995

Series-A MY93
Series-B MY94
Series-C MY95
Series-C MY96 AKA Series-C2
Series-D MY97
Series-E MY98 etc

Deja vu or what?
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