lost 5th gear when driving any ideas?
18 November 2005, 03:50 PM
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lost 5th gear when driving any ideas?
As above driving from a client when i tried to change to 5th gear, brick wall time, 1st -ok 2nd ok 3rd ok 4th ok 5th Nothing?
Any ideas?
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18 November 2005, 04:24 PM
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Knackered synchromesh? Has it been crunching into 5th for a while.
Or have you struck something that may have affected the linkage? Does the linkage move freely enough for the rest of the gears, as in does the gear lever feel any different?
Knackered synchromesh? Has it been crunching into 5th for a while.
Or have you struck something that may have affected the linkage? Does the linkage move freely enough for the rest of the gears, as in does the gear lever feel any different?
18 November 2005, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by paulpalmer
Have you checked under the seats?
yup, seats, boot, even looked in to the front thingy.. where that vroom vroom noise comes from.. cant think of the name.. oh yeah the engine, ..no sign of the missing gear! thx for the advice Paul!
also no crunching at all,rest of the gears seem ok no difference, it kinda feels like something is blocking going into 5th,anyway car booked into garage next week to get Gearbox stripped.
18 November 2005, 05:57 PM
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Woodruff key has probably snapped which is disallowing selection (only affects 5th). I have just had my WRX box rebuilt which was crunching into 3rd aswell (albeit only at 7000rpm). Cheap part to buy and you may not have to strip the box if the other gears are ok.
18 November 2005, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
Woodruff key has probably snapped which is disallowing selection (only affects 5th). I have just had my WRX box rebuilt which was crunching into 3rd aswell (albeit only at 7000rpm). Cheap part to buy and you may not have to strip the box if the other gears are ok.
Thx for that, is it better to get the whole box recond, while the mechanic is at it?
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18 November 2005, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilHimSelf
As above driving from a client when i tried to change to 5th gear, brick wall time, 1st -ok 2nd ok 3rd ok 4th ok 5th Nothing?
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
18 November 2005, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilHimSelf
Thx for that, is it better to get the whole box recond, while the mechanic is at it?
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18 November 2005, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
Well yes i got him to do that to mine. Mind you none of the bearings were worn but he replaced a few gaskets, 3rd gear syncro hub, woodruff key etc,. Parts were about 200. Depends if your box is genuinely worn or just not torqued up properly like mine was. For some reason it looked like the box had been off and that was what caused the problems. If i had a box where i found bearings etc were worn i'd get rid of the car because i'd bet you the next thing you'll be replacing is the big-end bearing on the engine and that's stupid money! Get the guy to check the box over. If it seems low mileage it's probably worth doing the small bits i did. If it whines or all the teeth on the gears are jagged sell the ******* on, because this condition will probably be mirrored in the engine.
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New Engine 10k ago done by same mechanic. Hes going to check it all out for me, was suggested i get a 2nd hand box, but i not sure about this, if there is only small part damage why buy another?
18 November 2005, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DevilHimSelf
Yup MY00
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19 November 2005, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Sounds like they didnt torque up 5th gear nut enough, you "may" be able to claim as it was a factory fault if this is the case (common on MY00's hence i asked if it was one).
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well out of warranty since middle of this month, sigh..
Well hopefully its not a major job, and i say "hopefully", but i may see if i can get the gearbox strengthened(sic), Thx all for the advice, late monday or tuesday will tell the story!
19 November 2005, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kael
5th gear locking nut is loose as everyone else says. Happens sooner or later on most cars.
No mate **** getting a 2nd hand box unless you need to. They're about 500-700 and then there's the fitting! Sometimes the box just isn't torqued up properly and it causes play in the output shaft which in turn can cause the fixing key for 5th to break or snap. Hence you end up with no 5th. I could select mine but it would jut in and out under torque and was basically unuseable. Cheap parts causing quite major symptoms. Your only dilamma is finding someone to do the labour cheaply enough. Forget your local garage!
19 November 2005, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
Yes.
No mate **** getting a 2nd hand box unless you need to. They're about 500-700 and then there's the fitting! Sometimes the box just isn't torqued up properly and it causes play in the output shaft which in turn can cause the fixing key for 5th to break or snap. Hence you end up with no 5th. I could select mine but it would jut in and out under torque and was basically unuseable. Cheap parts causing quite major symptoms. Your only dilamma is finding someone to do the labour cheaply enough. Forget your local garage!
No mate **** getting a 2nd hand box unless you need to. They're about 500-700 and then there's the fitting! Sometimes the box just isn't torqued up properly and it causes play in the output shaft which in turn can cause the fixing key for 5th to break or snap. Hence you end up with no 5th. I could select mine but it would jut in and out under torque and was basically unuseable. Cheap parts causing quite major symptoms. Your only dilamma is finding someone to do the labour cheaply enough. Forget your local garage!
The mechanic is an old friend of mine, has always serviced my car and he put in the new engine in last july. All this info is making me feel a lot better now, but im the "worse case senerio kind of person" so hopefully he will check the loose nut and when hes finished he will torque 5th gear for me.
Sad really today, seeing all the scoobs pass me by and i cant wave, in the wifes Accent.
2 days without scoob now.. i need a "Scooby fix".
Again thx for the very helpful info.
20 November 2005, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DevilHimSelf
Would that have made the rattle i have had the past 2 weeks, driving me nuts trying to find the source?
well out of warranty since middle of this month, sigh..
Well hopefully its not a major job, and i say "hopefully", but i may see if i can get the gearbox strengthened(sic), Thx all for the advice, late monday or tuesday will tell the story!
well out of warranty since middle of this month, sigh..
Well hopefully its not a major job, and i say "hopefully", but i may see if i can get the gearbox strengthened(sic), Thx all for the advice, late monday or tuesday will tell the story!
Try taking it back to subaru and see if they will do a good will gesture as your car is only just out of warranty
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20 November 2005, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
May have been the rattle
Try taking it back to subaru and see if they will do a good will gesture as your car is only just out of warranty
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Try taking it back to subaru and see if they will do a good will gesture as your car is only just out of warranty
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24 November 2005, 09:21 PM
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Well worse possible news, Gearbox fooked,
5th gear gone, and other gears well worn, and a mass of metal filings in gear oil.
So bit the bullet and got a 2nd hand gearbox from Traynors in Northern Ireland.
700 euros delivered to Dublin, so if all goes well back in my baby on Saturday.
Thx again all for the advice and help.
5th gear gone, and other gears well worn, and a mass of metal filings in gear oil.
So bit the bullet and got a 2nd hand gearbox from Traynors in Northern Ireland.
700 euros delivered to Dublin, so if all goes well back in my baby on Saturday.
Thx again all for the advice and help.
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