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Old 23 September 2005, 07:02 PM
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Default P1 vs MY05 STi with 333

How would the sti compare to the P1?

Would there be any difference between the two or would it be a close run thing?
A friend has just brought one and he thinks hes the dogs lol (well he aint that wrong really) but I was thinking what other scooby would give him a fright?

What about the WRX300? would this be able to keep up?
Old 23 September 2005, 08:25 PM
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i have just sold a P1 with a tek3 remap (290 bhp) and now got a sti 05 with rcm tuning (350 bhp)
had a play with a 03 sti (a good friend he had 333 from TSL) on the m/way and it was very even from 50 up to *** and on. The P1 just pulled past him when we got over *30
my new sti is a lot faster then my old P1
had the P1 on the P of MPH when looking at the speedometer past the 160 mark
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Originally Posted by NeilP1
i have just sold a P1 with a tek3 remap (290 bhp) and now got a sti 05 with rcm tuning (350 bhp)
had a play with a 03 sti (a good friend he had 333 from TSL) on the m/way and it was very even from 50 up to *** and on. The P1 just pulled past him when we got over *30
my new sti is a lot faster then my old P1
had the P1 on the P of MPH when looking at the speedometer past the 160 mark
So your saying a P1 against a STi 333 (current model) would be quicker but not an STi which is running 350bhp

I think i got that right lol, i have had a long week at work
Old 23 September 2005, 09:13 PM
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i had a p1 with 276 bhp sold it for sti tsl-tsl seems faster as above i had p1 at 165 still accelerating sti does seem to run out of puff 140 ish
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Old 23 September 2005, 09:32 PM
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My P1 is running 370BHP modded by RCM ,i have had a play with a wrx05 PPP and left it for dust (my old mans car).My mate has got a sti05 ppp had a play with him and between 30mph and 80 i pulled 3 or 4 car lengths on him ,that was with him in front,i also had 2 passengers in my car and he was on his own.
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If you went JDM v P1 then the JDM would be the winner, better gearing and more torque, less drag though heavier (the gearing/drag and torque come into play here) it would pull away happily, though the standard air filter is a bit restrictive towards the top end of the rev range.
A PPP'd MY05 should also be quicker than a P1 (12.2? v 13.2 to 100mph) and should also have a nice advantage with in gear torque over the P1 (plus better at higher speeds due to the air intake over the intercooler, better air flow etc and with the A-DCCD should also be putting more bhp on the road).

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Old 23 September 2005, 10:53 PM
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who are RCM where are they based?
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RCM = roger clark motorsport.

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http://www.rogerclarkmotorsport.co.u...trancehome.asp
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At the same road speed, how much lower are the transmission losses through a DCCD-A drivetrain compared with conventional viscous centre Tony? What data do you have on this?

On a viscous diff at 100 mph mine were below 50 BHP on a Bosch dyno with RWD stuff at about 30 BHP IIRC. Seems to depend more on the dyno and the gearing I reckon.
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I agree on the torque of the recent JDMs, but I think the gearing on the P1 is spot on and I didn't notice any charge temperature problems on the VF28 at sensible boost on the P1 at high speeds.

Not being a GC8 luddite, but I think some of the information is spurious and misleading.
Old 23 September 2005, 11:27 PM
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A PPP'd MY05 should also be quicker than a P1 (12.2? v 13.2 to 100mph)
Subaru quoted 12.27s 0-100 mph in a press release for the P1.
Old 24 September 2005, 11:43 AM
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are the o5 stis not limited to 150 mph ??
Old 24 September 2005, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by john banks
Subaru quoted 12.27s 0-100 mph in a press release for the P1.
Also Top Gear tested it against the EVO 6, the P1 got 12.3 and beat the EVO 100-120, getting a time of 6.5s. Also P1's have a better p/w/r, that's not taking into account the standard P1's coming off the dyno's with more than standard power.

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22B is the only one to have!
Old 24 September 2005, 01:57 PM
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wrx300 wouldn't be far behind apart from top end. although it is a new car which is an absolute bargain for the performance at 19K
Old 24 September 2005, 05:19 PM
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wrx300 - thats the 300 units limited edition based on the wrx ppp 265ps (262bhp) ?
Old 24 September 2005, 07:12 PM
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Why do people STILL think the UK300 is 300bhp...!!!!
Old 24 September 2005, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by C2forWRX
wrx300 wouldn't be far behind apart from top end. although it is a new car which is an absolute bargain for the performance at 19K
i would have thought it would be a fair bit behind?
Old 25 September 2005, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
If you went JDM v P1 then the JDM would be the winner, better gearing and more torque, less drag though heavier (the gearing/drag and torque come into play here) it would pull away happily, though the standard air filter is a bit restrictive towards the top end of the rev range.
A PPP'd MY05 should also be quicker than a P1 (12.2? v 13.2 to 100mph) and should also have a nice advantage with in gear torque over the P1 (plus better at higher speeds due to the air intake over the intercooler, better air flow etc and with the A-DCCD should also be putting more bhp on the road).

Tony
Just try driving the type r day to though.The gearing for the P1 is set up more to British roads.

The DCCD does come in handy when donuting at Maccy d's to impress the 13 year old birds though
Old 25 September 2005, 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dibbleyuk
22B is the only one to have!
incorrect, for half the price you can get a sweet Type R which is quicker
Old 25 September 2005, 05:01 PM
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Well i got took out in it yesterday and man was it fast lol. Certianly faster than the standard STi i took on a test drive earlier that day. I know that I would need a car that has either ppp or triple 3 as to not be left behind but it didnt feel as solidly built as the newer models.
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