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Old 13 September 2005, 06:46 PM
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Default MY06 Impreza - The official Annoucement

I don't thnk anyones beaten me to it as I can't see it anywhere yet.

Plenty of rumours and talk but heres the official announcement that arrived at Scoobycity towers a few mins ago via a contact at IM. This should have been released this afternoon but seems to have been delayed.

Embargo: Not For Publication Before 1pm Tuesday, September 13, 2005

DYNAMIC FACELIFT AND MASSIVE POWER UPGRADES FOR ’06 IMPREZA

Dynamic facelift with ‘spread-wings’ grille and ‘hawk-eye’ headlamps
STI now has diffuser rear under spoiler and rear window roof vane
New cylindrical 3-D rear lamps, revised bumpers, bonnet and wings
High-intensity headlamps and side airbags for most models
Effortless ‘Boxer’ engine performance thanks to new high-torque 2.5 litre turbo for WRX and WRX STI and new 2.0 litre four-cam engine for GX and GX Sport
WRX STI now has 281 PS and 289 lb ft torque – 16 PS and 36 lb ft up
Boosts top speed by almost 7 mph to 158.4 mph with 0-60 mph in 5 seconds
Standard WRX gains big mid-range flexibility hike with 230 PS and 236 lb ft 2.5 turbo engine from ’06 Forester
Huge 35 PS power increase - at 160 PS - for naturally-aspirated 2.0R and 2.0R Sport
Slashes 0-60 mph time to 8.5 seconds with 11 mph increase in top speed for saloon at 130 mph
WRX STI has revised gear ratios giving sharper acceleration and more relaxed cruising
WRX STI boasts revised symmetrical all-wheel drive system for even more agile handling and driver involvement
Slicker-shifting manual gearboxes and new, more efficient automatic option for 2.0R and 2.0R Sport



Upgraded interior trim with new luggage hangars for 5-door models
Unveiled at 1 pm on Tuesday, September 13 at ‘The 61st Frankfurt Motor Show’ (Subaru stand D06, Hall Cool
On-sale mid-October with higher anticipated prices

Subaru’s iconic Impreza gains a dynamic facelift showcasing a new corporate ‘spread-wings’ grille and ‘hawk-eye’ headlamps plus three new, high-torque 2.0 and 2.5 litre ‘Boxer’ engines for the ’06 Model Year.

Renowned for its agile handling, leech-like roadholding and symmetrical all-wheel drive security, the latest Impreza forges even stronger links with its World Rally Championship counterpart which has also been redesigned by the same in-house team.

Both the revised Impreza range and a WRC 2006 Impreza Prototype will be unveiled at ‘The 61st Frankfurt Motor Show’ at 1 am on Tuesday, September 13 (Subaru Stand D06, Hall Cool.

Predictably, the new 2.5 litre turbocharged 230 PS WRX and 281 PS WRX STI are destined to attract the most attention from driving enthusiasts.

However, the naturally-aspirated 2.0 litre models also have a much sportier flavour thanks to a 35 PS power hike from their new 160 PS four-cam powerplants.

On sale mid-October, the ’06 Impreza range comprises a 2.0R five-door, 2.0R Sport saloon and five-door, 2.5 WRX saloon and five-door and 2.5 WRX STI saloon. Because of the host of improvements, prices are likely to be higher.

Facelift In Detail
The latest Impreza showcases Subaru’s new corporate look, boasting a dynamic road presence matching its blistering performance.

A key feature is the ‘spread-wings’ mesh grille with a centre section resembling an aeroplane fuselage and sweeping outer sections mimicking the wings. Subaru’s parent company, Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd, has its origins as an aircraft manufacturer.

Dubbed internally ‘hawk-eye’, the new headlamps have a 3-D effect with cylindrical lamp units. For a feeling of design unity, the rear lamps are also 3-D and with similar cylinders encircled by claw-type strakes for a prestige look.

The bonnet has been lengthened by almost 2 ins (50 mm), giving a more efficient air intake into the turbo bonnet scoop. Because of this better airstream, the STI now has the same size air intake as the WRX, improving visibility.

A strong character line runs from each side of the central grille air intake, giving a strong, dynamic 3-D feel.

The saloon and five-door each have new front bumpers with concave horizontal corner spoilers to smooth the airflow down the side of the car. In addition, the saloon features vertical air intakes at the side of the bumper for enhanced brake cooling.

New, smaller yet more powerful projector-type fog lamps are fitted to all models, offering much greater light distribution. Meanwhile, all but the entry-level 2.0R five-door have HID headlamps with pop-up washers.

A new design of colour-keyed side-skirts adds to the sports stance, being better integrated with the overall body design and featuring sweeping swage lines that continue to flow into the rear bumpers.





Every model has changes to its road wheels, with the 2.0R having 16 ins five-spoke alloys, WRX 17 ins seven-spoke alloys and WRX STI boasting a new shade of gold for its 17 ins 10-spoke alloys.

Appropriately, the most spectacular changes of all are restricted to the WRX STI which gains a ribbed under bumper diffuser to improve the airflow under the boot well.

Also new for the STI is a roof vane covering the top half of the rear window. This compliments the massive high-rise boot spoiler by deflecting airflow from the top of roof under the boot spoiler, increasing downforce and stability.

Many of these aerodynamic improvements are shared with the rally car, as FIA WRC regulations demand a high proportion of shared features. Both road and WRC cars were conceived by the Design Department of FHI.

Engine Improvements In Detail
Subaru has built an enviable reputation for reliability, long engine life and accessible performance through the design of its horizontally-opposed, all aluminium ‘boxer’ engines. This ‘flat-four’ cylinder layout gives a lower centre-of-gravity for enhanced cornering grip.

It is also ideal when mated to Subaru’s standard symmetrical all-wheel drive system because of its compactness, light weight and ability to connect with the AWD transmission in a straight line.

Now, for 2006, the Impreza WRX and WRX STI have their 2.0 litre turbocharged engines replaced by more powerful and flexible 2.5 litre units producing 230 and 281 PS respectively. Meanwhile, the naturally-aspirated 2.0R and 2.0R Sport boast a new 160 PS four-cam unit with a 35 PS power hike.


Common to all three new engines are twin overhead camshafts per bank (DOHC) plus an Active Valve Control System (AVCS) which is a form of variable valve timing. This enhances low-speed pulling power and high-rev power.

Also shared is an electronic throttle for more responsive acceleration and a secondary air intake system which reduces emissions and speeds the warm-up of the catalytic converter.

All Imprezas feature four valves per cylinder, centrally-located spark plugs, pent-roof combustion chambers and multi-point fuel injection with an ignition coil for each cylinder.

Gutsier Responses From New 2.5 Litre WRX STI
Much gutsier throttle responses with stronger low and mid-range torque plus higher top-end power are guaranteed with the new 2.5 litre WRX STI’s high-pressure turbocharged engine.

Maximum power leaps from 265 to 281 PS at 5,600 rpm – 400 rpm lower – while pulling power grows by 36 lb ft to 289 lb ft at the same 4,000 rpm.

The result is a top speed of 158.4 mph – almost 7 mph more – and a 0-60 mph time fractionally down at 5.0 seconds.

The 2,457 cc engine has a larger bore and stroke than before at 99.5 x 79 mm while the compression ratio is the same 8.0:1.

Changes to the STI’s six-speed gear ratios result in sharper initial acceleration but more relaxed cruising with enhanced refinement and fuel economy.

Fourth gear, for example, is now 16.3 mph/1,000 rpm instead of 13.7 with sixth at 26.2 mph/1,000 rpm rather than 24.5.

Fuel consumption figures are slightly better, now standing at 18.5/34.0 and 25.9 mpg for the Urban/Extra Urban and Combined Cycle.

Real-World Driving Benefits For New 2.5 Litre WRX
An extra 5 PS and 15 lb ft torque may not sound much but is it how it is delivered that makes the ’06 MY Impreza WRX such a sharp driving tool.

Throughout the rev range the new 2.5 litre engine gives extra performance with punchier throttle response and fewer gear changes needed for rapid progress – aided by slightly lower gearing. For example, the lower final drive gives 23.5 mph/1,000 mph in fifth – 1.2 mph/1,000 rpm less than before.

Power is now 230 PS at the same 5,600 rpm but the torque of 235 lb ft is now at 400 rpm lower at 3,600.

The headline figures of a 143 mph top speed and 0-60 mph time of 5.4 seconds (saloon) may be very similar to the ’05 MY 2.0 litre WRX but real-world driving characteristics reveal a much sprightlier car with an effortless power delivery and stronger turbo response from low speeds.

Despite the larger engine capacity, fuel economy is virtually the same at 19.6/35.8 and 27.4 mpg on the Urban/Extra Urban and Combined Cycle.

No Poor Relation – The New 160 PS 2.0 Litre
The non-turbo Imprezas – despite enjoying a firm following for their AWD traction, fine handling, durability and practical features - have previously been in the shadow of their performance stablemates. Not any more.

With its new 2.0 litre four-cam ‘boxer engine, and dynamic new styling, the new Impreza 2.0R and 2.0R Sport have a much stronger identity and better compliment the turbo models in the range.

Power leaps by no less than 35 PS to 160 PS at 6,400 rpm, while the strong torque of 137.2 lb ft is at an accessible 3,200 rpm – 400 rpm lower than before.

This means low-speed throttle response and pulling power is unusually strong yet the engine is capable of revving to high engine speeds while still producing increased power.

Top speed leaps by 11 mph for the manual saloon and 9 mph for the manual five-door, now standing at 130 and 126 mph respectively, while the automatic versions are 5 mph faster than the previous model.

Also illustrating the dramatically increased performance are the 0-60 mph times of 8.5 seconds for the manual – 1.4 seconds down – and 11.3 seconds for the automatic – a full 1 second swifter.

This sporty new character is not at the expense of fuel economy which is similar to the previous, slower model at 22.6/40.4 and 31.4 mpg on the Urban/Extra Urban and Combined Cycles and 23.5/40.9 and 32.5 mpg for the automatic.

Other improvements include a 4-2-1 equal length, ‘constant-pulsation’ exhaust system which avoids gas flow interference and speeds the warm-up of the catalytic converter.

‘Constant pulsation’ also greatly enhances low to mid-speed torque and gives higher power outputs.

The new 2.0 litre four-cam ‘boxer’ engine retains the same 92 mm bore and 75 mm stroke as before with a 10.0:1 compression ratio.




Finally, all Impreza 2.0 litre models have a larger, 13.2 gallon (60 litre) fuel
tank – an increase of around 2 gallons (10 litres). Coupled with similar fuel economy to before, this significantly increases the car’s touring range.

Improved, Slicker-Shifting Transmissions
All ‘06 Imprezas have slicker-shifting five or six-speed manual transmissions, while the 2.0R boasts a more efficient four-speed automatic gearbox.

On the five-speed manual Impreza 2.0R and 2.5 WRX, the manual shift stroke, for example, is now 10 mm shorter and the firmness of the gear-change itself is enhanced by 15 percent.

The Impreza 2.0R now has a double-cone synchroniser for first and third gears giving a lighter gear-change.

Meanwhile, the six-speed manual transmission on the 2.5 WRX STI now has carbon-plated synchronisers on fourth, fifth and sixth gears. With an improvement in the friction coefficient, the effort needed to change gear is reduced.

A new four-speed automatic transmission for the Impreza 2.0R is 2.5 kg lighter and provides smoother changes with greater sensitivity to the driver’s wishes.

It is more efficient, saving fuel, because a slip lock-up device reduces wasted engine revs. In addition, advanced electronics – linked to an electronic throttle – match engine speed with the best gear for any given situation.

The Impreza 2.0R five-door manual continues to have a low-ratio transfer ‘box which effectively provides 10 speeds. This is useful when towing or covering difficult road surfaces, providing extra engine braking – and therefore greater control - at low speeds.

As with previous models, the full-time all-wheel drive transmission features a 50/50 front to rear torque split on manual models except the STI and 60/40 on the automatic. However, the split varies according to changing conditions.

The manual Impreza has a centre differential with viscous coupling which senses which axle has the better grip and distributes torque accordingly to minimise the risk of wheespin.

The Impreza 2.5 WRX also features a limited-slip differential in the rear axle to apportion grip between each rear wheel.

On automatic models, a similar function to the viscous coupling is carried out by Subaru’s sophisticated Active Torque Split system. This employs electronics, sensors and a multi-plate hydraulic transfer clutch.

New for the ’06 Impreza automatic is an advanced, faster-reacting system which monitors ‘real-time’ motion of the four wheels, the road surface friction, steering angle and engine output via sensors. A computer then rapidly apportions power to the wheel with the most grip for optimum stability and handling precision.

’06 Impreza WRX STI Type-UK In Detail
Apart from its dynamic new look and more powerful 2.5 litre high-pressure turbocharged engine, the ’06 Impreza WRX STI gains still further revisions to its symmetrical AWD system with front and rear limited–slip differentials - already heavily revised for the ’05 Model Year.

The aim is to give drivers even more interactive handling pleasure with sharper steering responses, greater handling adjustability both on and off-throttle, reduced understeer and enhanced straight-line stability on uneven surfaces and under severe acceleration.


New for ’06 is an improved version of the Driver’s Control Centre Differential (DCCD), allowing the driver to control the vehicle dynamics more precisely.

The DCCD is operated via a switch mounted next to the handbrake and allows the driver to manually select the torque distribution front to rear, reverting to automatic mode every time the ignition is turned off.

For example, he or she can choose between having a sharper cornering turn-in or more stable straight-line running.

The system already has a yaw-rate sensor but now adds an extra one for steering wheel angle plus a new front helical limited-slip differential which is now torque-sensitive, reacting much earlier than before to varying road conditions.

With these changes to both hardware and software for the DCCD, the car can maintain a heavier rear-wheel drive bias for longer, enhancing cornering turn-in for less understeer.

However, it can also react faster to potential oversteer meaning the cornering line is more in keeping with the driver’s intentions.

In addition, the new front LSD is quicker-acting than the previous type and improves steering stability when cornering near the limit. It also improves the car’s steering behaviour on slippery surfaces with less side-to-side tug.

But because of these revisions for the ’06 model with improved passive vehicle dynamics, the torque distribution ratio between front and rear wheels in auto mode has been changed from 35:65 to 41:59.

Impreza WRX STI Suspension Explained
For the ’05 model year, the Impreza WRX STI benefited from a completely revised suspension with new geometry including a caster angle raised by 1.5 degrees and a 15 mm wider rear track and 10 mm longer wheelbase.

Spring and damper rates were retuned and the front and rear lateral links made from aluminium to reduce unsprung weight. Also changed were the anti-roll bars which were made bigger, further reducing body roll and increasing handling sensitivity.

In addition, the suspension mounting points are more rigid including the support arm for the front cross-member and jack-up plate made into a single unit.

Even the front axle hub units and housings were redesigned as part of the 05 MY revisions to improve the capacity of the wheel bearings, while the rear differential cushion rubber was uprated to increase handling stability.

The Impreza WRX STI’s steering also underwent engineering refinement, making for greater precision and feedback. This is achieved by using a cannon mount-type attachment for the steering gearbox.

Meanwhile, a special damper valve was added to the system which reduces kick-back during hard cornering or when driving on a bumpy road.

Other technical changes include the fitment of engine and floorpan underfloor covers to improve the aerodynamics.

High-Quality Interior For WRX STI
Like the rest of the ’05 Impreza range, significant changes were made to the interior to enhance the ambience while retaining the Impreza STI’s sporty character.



Specific new features for the STI included a new design of gear lever and three-spoke steering wheel.

Even the seat trim came in for re-examination, and while the popular blue suede-effect centre section with red STI logos continues, the black cloth covering the side supports is now of a richer, more grippy material.

‘Type-UK’ Special Features
The STI is designated and badged ‘Type-UK’ to distinguish it from unofficial imports which do not have the additional features standard on the British versions.

These include a Category One alarm/immobiliser, a special satellite tracking system, locking wheel nuts and window etching.

Visual differences to the regular WRX include special gold-coloured spoked alloy wheels, colour-keyed sill spoilers and an interior featuring blue suede-effect seats with STI logos.

Also inside is a switch to spray the intercooler with water to retain power during high-temperature/altitude driving. Another device allows the driver to preset a warning buzzer and light to guard against over-revving the engine.

And for the ’06 model, the instruments feature electro-luminescent dials which light up red on turning on the ignition before arcing right to their maximum readings before returning to zero. Once that happens, the ‘STI’ logo also lights up in red.

On opening the bonnet, the engine compartment greets owners with a dramatic mixture of colours and detailing. The intake manifold, for example, is painted in red and the enlarged aluminium intercooler emblazoned with ‘STI’ lettering.



Fast cars need good brakes and the STI features an ABS braking system made by renowned specialists, Brembo S.p.A of Italy while a close-ratio six-speed gearbox exploits the engine’s performance to the full.

Passenger And Pedestrian Safety Boost
Both occupants and pedestrians are well protected by the latest Impreza thanks to a whole series of safety measures. These include anti-raindrop door mirrors which stay cleaner, enhancing visibility.

New for ’06 is the greater use of side airbags – now fitted to both the Impreza WRX STI as well as the Imprexa 2.0R Sport. Previously, only the WRX had side airbags. Naturally, both driver and passenger airbags are standard.

The Impreza 2.0R and 2.0R Sport also have active front head-restraints which reduce the risk of whiplash injuries. The brake pedal is energy-absorbing, being designed to snap away under severe impact, protecting the driver’s lower limbs. In the rear seat are two ISOFIX-compatible child seat mountings.

The passenger airbag is dual-stage which provides progressive protection matched to the severity of the impact and the standard anti-lock brakes (ABS) come with electronic brakeforce distribution (EBD). This juggles the braking force between front and rear wheels according to load shifts during deceleration.

Outside, pedestrian injury is reduced thanks to a more rounded contour to the top of the front bumper, a gently curved bonnet and windscreen wipers which crush, softening any impact.

Extra security measures include deadlocking and special shields around the driver’s door lock.




In addition, all Imprezas continue to benefit from keyless-entry central-locking and a Category One remote alarm/immobiliser. The WRX STI Type-UK also has a satellite tracking system.

Composed Yet Involving, Forgiving Yet Fun – The Chassis
A sophisticated all-wheel drive system coupled with low-friction, long travel four-wheel independent suspension and low-centre of gravity ‘boxer’ engines have all contributed to the Impreza’s reputation for outstanding handling and roadholding.

For the Mark 2 model, introduced in October 2000, Subaru’s engineers gave the Impreza a vastly stiffer floorpan which reduces road noise, improves crash safety and allows the suspension to work even better.

The saloon body, for example, is 250 per cent more resistant to bending with the
5-door showing a 239 per cent improvement.

For the Mark 2 Impreza, Subaru decided to continue with strut suspension at the rear instead of adopting the larger Legacy’s multi-link system. The reasons were compactness, low unsprung weight and WRC rally-proven durability.

Major chassis revisions were carried out for the ’05 Model Year – partly in preparation for the major power hike now enjoyed by ’06 MY Imprezas.

For example, the Impreza WRX gained inverted front and rear suspension struts – previously only used on the STI.

This sharpens handling feel and enhances roadholding by reducing wheel movement during hard cornering or when covering bumpy surfaces.

Other standard WRX improvements included aluminium front suspension lateral links – which reduce unsprung weight – and more rigid suspension mountings for even more precise handling.

At the same time, the naturally-aspirated Imprezas gained a rear anti-roll bar plus larger 16x6.5 ins alloy wheels with 205/50 tyres for extra grip.

Generous Equipment
Standard equipment on the latest Impreza 2.0R Sport saloon and five-door includes air-conditioning, front fog lamps, HID headlamps with pop-up washers, power steering, four electric windows, electric door mirrors, ABS, dual-range transmission for the 5-door, driver, passenger and side airbags, radio with single disc CD player, split-folding rear seat, rev-counter, outside temperature gauge, keyless entry central locking and Category One remote alarm/immobiliser.

The new entry-level Impreza 2.0R 5-door door features all of the above except side airbags and HID headlamps.

Meanwhile, the WRX saloon and 5-door feature a bonnet air intake, rear spoiler, large 17x7 ins alloy wheels with 215/45 ZR tyres, aluminium accelerator, brake and clutch pedals, radio/cassette with CD player, a new turbocharged 2.5 litre 230 PS engine, rear limited-slip differential and sports seats with side airbags.

The Impreza WRX saloon and five-door is also available in ‘SL’ trim which adds leather interior with heated front seats and an electric sun-roof.

New features for 2006 include fresh cloth seat trim for the WRX and 2.0R with black centre and grey outer panels.

Meanwhile, all Impreza five-door models gain extra functionality thanks to hangars on both sides of the load bay for hanging cargo nets or small items.

Generous Warranty
All Imprezas marketed by Subaru (UK) Limited come with the reassurance of a three year or 60,000 mile warranty plus 12 year anti-corrosion cover and three year paintwork warranty.

This is in addition to three years’ membership of Subaru Assistance – a comprehensive home and roadside repair and recovery package throughout the UK and Europe administered by Mondial Assistance.

The ’06 Impreza Range is as follows: On-The-Road
2.0R Sport Saloon AWD manual TBA
2.0R Sport Saloon AWD auto
2.0R 5-door AWD manual
2.0R Sport 5-door AWD manual
2.0R Sport 5-door AWD auto
2.5 WRX Saloon AWD manual
2.5 WRX 5-door AWD manual
2.5 WRX ‘SL’ Saloon AWD manual
2.5 WRX ‘SL’ 5-door AWD manual
2.5 WRX STI Type-UK Saloon

Performance And Economy:

Top Speed 0 – 60 Urban Extra Urban Combined
mph sec mpg mpg mpg
2.0R Saloon (Man) 130 8.5 22.6 40.4 31.4
2.0R Saloon (Auto) 119 11.3 23.5 40.9 32.5
2.0R 5-door (Man) 126 8.5 22.6 40.4 31.4
2.0R 5-door (Auto) 116 11.3 23.5 40.9 32.5
2.5 WRX Saloon 143 5.4 19.6 35.8 27.4
2.5 WRX 5-door 143 5.6 19.6 35.8 27.4
2.5 WRX STI Type-UK Saloon 158.4 5.0 18.5 34.0 25.9
Old 13 September 2005, 06:47 PM
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Specs look good, but I cant make my mind up, Should I get a Hawkeye or should I keep my blobeye,

Lets see what special edition will be coming out, cause the rally car look and if they make a road going replica of that, then ill be happy.
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And here's mine, on its way from Japan Today 13th, wahoooooooooooooooooooo,
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/ChrisSTi/070.jpg
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Thanks to Iain litchfield. JDM though obviously 2.0 STi

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Excuse me while I dig out the numerous posts from me from January this year onwards where I stated the 06 would have a 2.5 and everyone laughed me out the door, even right up to a month or two ago
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It wasn't kept hidden very well. Most people had heard from very reliable sources a long while ago but personally I found it so hard to believe that we were finally getting something that the japs weren't for a change. Its good to hear it officially too.
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'Dubbed internally 'hawk-eye'' heh, Subaru desperately tries to head off any less flattering names, not that it'll work.

DCCD - check
AVCS - check
2.5 goodness - check

I'll take one in black with silver wheels and a set of 05 tail lights please

Liberating those few extra horses that the USDM model has shouldn't be too hard.....
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""Meanwhile, all Impreza five-door models gain extra functionality thanks to hangars on both sides of the load bay for hanging cargo nets or small items""

CORRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

It's sad that Subaru think thats worth mentioning!!

Wouldn't it be quite nice just to 'discover' the hooks when you are looking it over with the Owners Manual in hand???

Pete
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"On-sale mid-October with higher anticipated prices"

How much then?!
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The official embargo date for this information was today although quite a few people have had it for some time

However, you should see what they've done to the '07 all to be revealed by Scooby Magazine very soon
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Why o why did they not put in a front mount!!! ?
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hmm 2007 model sorted already eh... just another thing to dent residuals on this model then why do they have to constantly make mistakes... why don't they just settle on somerthing now for a couple of years and then make one that -

1 - isn't ugly
2 - will have a tunable 2.5 (will get burnt for this)
3 - we don't have to spend thousands on to regain the power they have in japan
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Originally Posted by Scooby_Dee
The official embargo date for this information was today although quite a few people have had it for some time

However, you should see what they've done to the '07 all to be revealed by Scooby Magazine very soon
next year?
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Originally Posted by Scooby_Dee
However, you should see what they've done to the '07 all to be revealed by Scooby Magazine very soon
'revealed' as in actual spy shots or 'revealed' as in another photoshop lash-up that graces the front cover of every Japanese mag and Autoexpress based entirely on a drunk FHI salesman saying 'ah yes, 2007 wery wery funky!'?

Cynical, moi?
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Originally Posted by Johnny C
'revealed' as in actual spy shots or 'revealed' as in another photoshop lash-up that graces the front cover of every Japanese mag and Autoexpress based entirely on a drunk FHI salesman saying 'ah yes, 2007 wery wery funky!'?

Cynical, moi?
I don't blame you for being cynical there are too many people who guess at things and make assumptions or jump to conclusions.

As for fakes, we don't do fakes

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"Hawk-eye"...that can't be allowed to catch on surely? Fishface, Pig Nose, Japseye, Constipated face - any other suggestions?
Old 13 September 2005, 10:57 PM
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I no it sounds stupid, but do you think that the MY05 blobeye model rear lights would fit the MY06 Hawkeye, they look like the same shape, And they look better.
Old 13 September 2005, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
I no it sounds stupid, but do you think that the MY05 blobeye model rear lights would fit the MY06 Hawkeye, they look like the same shape, And they look better.
MY06 Rear lights
http://photobucket.com/albums/y16/sc...=9_blk_995.jpg

Blobeye Rear lights.
http://photobucket.com/albums/y16/sc...Picture001.jpg
Old 13 September 2005, 11:12 PM
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Look for a flood of bugeye and blobeye cars for sale soon!

Ohh dear, older car residuals plummet!

At least classics are relatively steady, if too low!
Old 13 September 2005, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by vulnax999
Subaru has built an enviable reputation for reliability, long engine life.........
Ermmmm, i'm sure some would disagree on scoobynet..........my gearbox lasted less than 2 weeks, not to mention MAFs, big ends, etc, etc.

Anyway, why don't they stick in the 3 litre boxer six and bung a big turbo on that!

6 cyls + turbo > 4 cyls + turbo
Old 14 September 2005, 12:23 AM
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they changed to a 2.5 but power is at 281ps

not much change

why the 2.5?

not gonna bother now, we'll be expecting a facelift, in 2007(end)
Old 14 September 2005, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Smurftech
Anyway, why don't they stick in the 3 litre boxer six and bung a big turbo on that!
because it won't fit in the engine bay without a huge amount of reworking of the bay... although there is at least one h6 being built in the UK...
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Originally Posted by wwp8
they changed to a 2.5 but power is at 281ps

not much change

why the 2.5?

(end)
Cause Subaru know that the only way they're really going to liberate more power from the UK models if they stay at 2ltrs is to go down the JDM route of equal length headers etc and that means loosing the signature burble that the UK market loves so much. They also know that UK buyers like torque and that most of them end up having their cars tuned either by Prodrive (they have to leave room for them to offer convincing power hikes over std) or other companies. A 2.5 is a better/easier starting point for more power than a 2.0 and is a tried a tested formula not only within Subaru, but also within the tuning community.

At least, that would be my guess

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Ah but if they want torque then surely the Twin Scroll is the way forward, that produces monster torque

I would sooner have a UK twin scroll over a 2.5 UK/US spec engine
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It's easier to produce the power with low emissions with a 2.5 than a 2.0. Mandatory Euro IV emission standards come into force soon (if they're not already).
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i had i post on 12.09 with this info
Old 14 September 2005, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by malibuda
i had i post on 12.09 with this info
Old 14 September 2005, 11:51 AM
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I thought the new car had already been christened "blobnose"...
Old 14 September 2005, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wwp8
not gonna bother now, we'll be expecting a facelift, in 2007(end)
I've got a feeling we won't be.
Old 14 September 2005, 12:02 PM
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I thought that 2007 saw new EU regs concerning bonnets etc come into place, which means that the scoop might be relegated to history? I could be spouting ***** here, but I thought that some pedestrian safety thing would case huge problems with a scoop. FMIC, anyone ?


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