doppelganger

has anybody had personal experience of nos kits on their scoobies.
good reports or bad which kits etc with or without proggressive controllers.and what bhp jets were you using and any mods to help .

Bubba po

I don't know about that but there's a truly rubbish pub band round our way with that name.

Luke C

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Uh Oh!!!

I detect a torrent of "nooo!!! DONT DO IT!!"


LOL

Luke C

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What its called 'Nos kits on their scoobies'?

Mitchy260

Try our very own nitrous manufacturer instead of the american garbage brought into this country....

The wizards of nos kits are very safe and excellent value for money IMO.

I have a progressive controlled WON kit with 50hp soon upgrading to 75hp jets (Own an LCR not a scooby)

Speak to the wizard himself (trev) on his forum site....

http://www.noswizard.com/bboard/inde...0bfec758dfbbc4

25yrs of nitrous experience, there is nothing he does not know and he'll tell you everything you need to know.

doc r

http://www.nearlygood.com/video/nitrousexplosion.html watch that

Mitchy260

That is the very reason why nitrous gets itself a bad name!

If installed correctly and run sensibly then very rarely anything goes wrong! That video is a typical example of 'cheap' yank systems!
Trev gives a very good explanation on why this happened and its impossible for it to happen on his system due to the safety features he incorporates into his standard components!

With the amount of cars here on scoobynet that have had an engine rebuilds due to poor mapping is unbelieveable! A Far higher statistic than the people who have had problems with nitrous! In fact is there anyone who has had a problem running nitrous on here?

G_Sleigh_STi

Fit any performance upgrade badly or incorrectly and its going to have bad effects on the engine.

NOS can be used safely and work a treat.

Neilo

I use a Coldfusion Kit on my scoob, and so far so good....ive used 45 jets on non progressive and progressive and the knocklink has still stayed relatively quiet. The quality of the kit is first rate too. I have a WON kit as well and am not really over awed by the look of it in comparison.

Neilo

uprated fuel pump would be a good start thoguh by the way in terms of advisable "pre" mods...

doppelganger

what kit are you using?
please dont say won cos thats one of the kits i wouldnt buy.if i had more time i would elaborate.

i have a feeling i may have to sooner rather than later

Mitchy260

Why wouldn't you buy a WON kit?

Elaborate?

As far as im aware the WON kit has been tested against the majority of its american rivals and always come out on top! I am not just saying that because i have a WON system but there have been numerous magazine based tests where lots of different kits have been compared!

WON always seem to come out on top! Top for reliability. Top for safety and top for performance! There are numerous magazine reviews i can point you to.

Top gear and 5th gear have both had WON systems fitted to differing cars for TV episodes!

I say its best to stick with british when it comes to this! too many horror videos like the 1 above come from the U S Of A

doppelganger

ok not personal experiances but ive been to a few jap shows at the pod and there always seems to be someone who have had a prob (never with any other kit although there must be some) and anyone trying to give a kit away to racers and having no takers doesnt exactly instil confidence,(as happened recently at avon park).im only telling it as ive seen and heard it,if i saw a racer with a won kit fitted over here i might reconsider my negativity

Mitchy260

What like this focus that recently run at santapod...

Not too shabby at all for a focus especially against a scooby

http://www.noswizard.com/videos/FocusFin.wmv

WON equipped

Nick Read

Ran a WON kit a few years back on my Clio for quarter miling. Without going into detail, here are my findings:

If you're going to fit nitrous, be serious about it - use a progressive controller, a bottle heater, and a dash mounted remote pressure gauge at least. Without these it's a waste of time and gas.

It's an expensive habit.

Good fun and works pretty well.

sbd16v

i have never herd bad reports of won kits i run one and althou i have no other kits to compair them to i have not had any problems and i think you will find some of the fastest and most high powered road cars in he country are fitted with won kits

doppelganger

no disrespect to scoobies at all but generally 1/4 milers they aint ,they bog down on the line cos of the 4 wheel drive ,you need to spend a lot of money to get them of the line ,60 foot times are a bit dire .but saying that i love the scooby engines ,great to work on and they fit in volkswagens stick it in a beetle couple of mods and 320bhp @the wheels dyno`ed at raceshack a couple of weeks ago. not WON equipped.
i couldnt get the video could you tell me the times of the focus and scooby in question.cheers

tominski

I have a kit, the same as Neilo. If anyone wants it PM me.. May sell. Never used. Wet kit, Intercooler spray bar and purge kit.

Neilo

I dont call 1.75sec 0-60 ft crap for a road car i can use every day? (thats my best in my lardy newage without nitrous) they can be as good as anything IMO....

Mark_S

"they bog down on the line cos of the 4 wheel drive "

I've heard everything now

Neilo

I think the Focus did a high 10 or low 11, the scoob was just a lightly modded bugeye and did about 14...it was just unfortunate that it was racing the focus!!

doppelganger

that aint bad at all ,i only get 2.2sec 60ft in my works pickup it will be good to meet a few people at the jap show even if we are in X class.

grave robbers as seen in issue 2 of scooby mag

EddScott

Just out of interest, what other mods are people running who have NOS installed?

Don't properly could 50HP jets be "safe" on a lightly modded UK car?


When I say safe, not too likely to pop the engine as apposed to foot down, goodbye engine, hello cheque book!

Neilo

if you use a progressive controller then yes id say so...

Im running a decat, tek3 map, and a coldfusion wet kit with minmax controller.

The knocklink barely lights up any more than usual on a trip down the dragstrip.

To run a 50 you dont even really need to retard any timing as the ecu can do it for you, as long as you have a decent set of grade 7 or lower plugs youd be ok

I have run a 45 shot without the controller, and with the exception of the initial hit, everything was ok and improved my 1/4 mile time by 0.6secs. with 8mph terminal increase.

Im going to try a 65 or 75 with the controller at the pod next weekend and see what happens....

EddScott

Cool, cheers for that. So 50 jets would give you a noticeable kick then?

Don't think I'd do it to mine but nice to know its possible

Neilo

well the 45 took mine from 285/285 to 360/360....so yes....its a big kick! great fun though!

Welloilbeefhooked

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Neilo,

I have a coldfusion kit that I want to use on my scoob.

I'm not looking for more power, I'm looking for anti-lag and earlier spool from the kit. What I dont know are the following points.

1) For a 15 or 20 shot would I need any timing adjustment. The ECU is a PFC mapped by Andy F

2) Have you got any pics or advice on where to mount the fogger nozzle

3) Will my current set up help/hinder.

MY98 WRX
STI8 IC
NGK 7's
Megan Headers - wrapped
Zerosports IHI turbo (similar spec to TD05-16g)
Power FC
Zerosports 3" openneck downpipe- wrapped
2.5" straight through to Magnex BB
APS CAK with Samco inlet hose
Walbro 255lt pump.


I have no det at all according to Andy so no issues before the NOS.

Thanks for any advice,

Wayne.

Neilo

for a small shot like that it should be ok, the only problem is with the pfc, there is no ignition retard, do you have the commander to keep an eye on knock activity?

it helps brilliantly with spool up....bout 1.6bar at about 2200

the rest sounds good...

you could probably alwasy ask andy as he runs it (obviously for power gain) in his drag car...

Neilo

a couple of pics of my install....(where youd put the fogger nozzle..)

http://www.mashamoto.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=305

Welloilbeefhooked

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Cant get registered mate!!

Any pics or links I can view?