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22 September 2000, 10:26 AM
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I’ve been comparing the Robin momento (aka plastic pig) against an STi VI and have decided that the robin is by far the better car. I have never driven either of these cars but a mate of mine knows someone who has. So I consider myself an expert. Since this forum is all about sharing knowledge, I felt obliged to give you the benefit of my expertise.
Any physics expert will tell you that the most stable structures have three legs as this prevents them from wobbling on an uneven surface. Remember having to stuff the log tables under a leg on your four legged desk during your maths exam to balance it on an uneven surface. It’s the same for cars. So with three wheels a robin has to be more stable and will handle better. The wobble problem becomes worse for 4 wheeled cars as the surface becomes more uneven and the suspension on Imprezas is far too stiff which makes this worse. So an Impreza would be particularly unsuitable as a rally car.
With a wheel in the middle where few other vehicles go you will be running on fresh tarmac that hasn’t been made as smooth as glass by the 100tonne lorries recently approved for use on British roads by the government. This gives you more grip. So on real road conditions rather than your fancy drag strips and race tracks a robin will easily out accelerate an Impreza.
If economy is important to you again the robin wins here. The new AC batteries designed to power the MY01 robin are made from Osmium kryptonite alloy. This is an incredibly light yet powerful composite, which has allowed a weight reduction for the new model. In BHP/tonne terms the designers reckon the MY01 should now have the drop on the prototype Delfino.
Recent addition of locking doors to the robin has brought security to a new level. In a real life street crime test, when a robin and a scoob were parked side by side in an inner city car park, 9 out of 10 thieves went for the scoob. It was found that in the case of the “odd man out”, his guide dog was to blame using one of the wheels of the plastic pig as a substitute lamp post. Available as an option the new stealth paint makes the robin not only invisible to radar but also to baseball cap wearing youths.
In addition to the better handling and quicker acceleration you’re more likely to attract members of the opposite sex in a robin. My mate down the pub is has a PhD in parapsychology and reliably informs me that the sleek looks of the nose of the robin combined with the very small diameter exhaust pipe have a particularly strong subconscious attraction to women. And women will easily pull the blokes who will come flocking to drool over their flash motor!
I’ve been looking at the various performance mods available and have been disappointed by the very limited selection available for Imprezas. However, Pigsport have a wide range of mods for the robin. I’m going to get it chipped first. This will take the performance to 336BHP. You can’t check it because the wheels wont all fit in the grooves of the rolling road but its true – my mate says!
I’ll be importing it from Burkina Faso because the cars for this market are tuned to run on a lower grade 23RON fuel and they don’t have the speed limiter. See you guys on track. By the way, is the next meet during half term?
Any physics expert will tell you that the most stable structures have three legs as this prevents them from wobbling on an uneven surface. Remember having to stuff the log tables under a leg on your four legged desk during your maths exam to balance it on an uneven surface. It’s the same for cars. So with three wheels a robin has to be more stable and will handle better. The wobble problem becomes worse for 4 wheeled cars as the surface becomes more uneven and the suspension on Imprezas is far too stiff which makes this worse. So an Impreza would be particularly unsuitable as a rally car.
With a wheel in the middle where few other vehicles go you will be running on fresh tarmac that hasn’t been made as smooth as glass by the 100tonne lorries recently approved for use on British roads by the government. This gives you more grip. So on real road conditions rather than your fancy drag strips and race tracks a robin will easily out accelerate an Impreza.
If economy is important to you again the robin wins here. The new AC batteries designed to power the MY01 robin are made from Osmium kryptonite alloy. This is an incredibly light yet powerful composite, which has allowed a weight reduction for the new model. In BHP/tonne terms the designers reckon the MY01 should now have the drop on the prototype Delfino.
Recent addition of locking doors to the robin has brought security to a new level. In a real life street crime test, when a robin and a scoob were parked side by side in an inner city car park, 9 out of 10 thieves went for the scoob. It was found that in the case of the “odd man out”, his guide dog was to blame using one of the wheels of the plastic pig as a substitute lamp post. Available as an option the new stealth paint makes the robin not only invisible to radar but also to baseball cap wearing youths.
In addition to the better handling and quicker acceleration you’re more likely to attract members of the opposite sex in a robin. My mate down the pub is has a PhD in parapsychology and reliably informs me that the sleek looks of the nose of the robin combined with the very small diameter exhaust pipe have a particularly strong subconscious attraction to women. And women will easily pull the blokes who will come flocking to drool over their flash motor!
I’ve been looking at the various performance mods available and have been disappointed by the very limited selection available for Imprezas. However, Pigsport have a wide range of mods for the robin. I’m going to get it chipped first. This will take the performance to 336BHP. You can’t check it because the wheels wont all fit in the grooves of the rolling road but its true – my mate says!
I’ll be importing it from Burkina Faso because the cars for this market are tuned to run on a lower grade 23RON fuel and they don’t have the speed limiter. See you guys on track. By the way, is the next meet during half term?
22 September 2000, 10:38 AM
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LOL! Superb article!
The scary thing is that I can't fault his logic.
I used to lust after an STI, but you've converted me.
Wonder if I've got time to hack a wheel off before Northern Muppet Meet IV?
The scary thing is that I can't fault his logic.
I used to lust after an STI, but you've converted me.Wonder if I've got time to hack a wheel off before Northern Muppet Meet IV?
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22 September 2000, 10:42 AM
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Any drunken physics "expert" will tell you 3 legs prevents wobbling on an uneven surface. 
I wobble on an even surface. Top article.
Apply for a job on Top Gear, you tell it like it is!
I wobble on an even surface. Top article.
Apply for a job on Top Gear, you tell it like it is!
22 September 2000, 10:50 AM
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Job on topgear?
"Here we are in the 4-speed STI killer at oulton, but it just understeers. Don't tell Robin, but if you use the handbrake you can get the **** out".
Tiffany Dell deserves shooting. I would guess that handbraking a quattro isn't the nicest thing to do to the centre diffs.
Someone will no doubt correct me.
However, back to the robin, no troubles with handbraking that. The torsen haldex helical centre diff will be set to 100/0 torque split at all times, therefore handbraking won't damage the diff.
See, it really *is* better than the impreza. And less ugly than the MY01.
<IMG SRC=http://devnull.owl.de/~cp/ReliantWeb/images/robin_02.jpg>
"Here we are in the 4-speed STI killer at oulton, but it just understeers. Don't tell Robin, but if you use the handbrake you can get the **** out".
Tiffany Dell deserves shooting. I would guess that handbraking a quattro isn't the nicest thing to do to the centre diffs.
Someone will no doubt correct me.
However, back to the robin, no troubles with handbraking that. The torsen haldex helical centre diff will be set to 100/0 torque split at all times, therefore handbraking won't damage the diff.
See, it really *is* better than the impreza. And less ugly than the MY01.
<IMG SRC=http://devnull.owl.de/~cp/ReliantWeb/images/robin_02.jpg>
22 September 2000, 10:59 AM
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he he he
Right I'm off to trade the WRX in for a Plaggy Pig.
I am thinking of starting my own tuning company as well as I have noticed that Pigsport are the only quality tuner in the market.
Watch out Pigmania will be trading soon, I envisage quality upgrades such as enlarged 8" wheel options and the ever so versatile wet cotton wool suspension with its own cotton bud tuning reservoir.
Plaggy Pigs are the way forward you heard it here first on piggynet "this time its serioulsy Oink"
He he
6SSK eat your heart out
Right I'm off to trade the WRX in for a Plaggy Pig.
I am thinking of starting my own tuning company as well as I have noticed that Pigsport are the only quality tuner in the market.
Watch out Pigmania will be trading soon, I envisage quality upgrades such as enlarged 8" wheel options and the ever so versatile wet cotton wool suspension with its own cotton bud tuning reservoir.
Plaggy Pigs are the way forward you heard it here first on piggynet "this time its serioulsy Oink"
He he
6SSK eat your heart out
22 September 2000, 11:02 AM
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<A href=http://www.reliant-motors.co.uk>Reliant motor's website</A> tempts us with the following: (not edited, as I really couldn't make it up - especially the bit about a cigar/cigarette lighter)
The Robin LX/SLX
Offers a wide choice of body colours in solids or metallics, complemented by distinctive model decals. SLX models include as standard equipment: stereo cassette, locking petrol cap and cigar/cigarette lighter.
It's easy to park in the town and it is a pleasure to drive in the country, making it the ideal shopping car and the perfect tourer.
The Robin Pedigree
The Robin SLX has a character all of its own. Luxurious and fun to drive, it is also extremely reliable and very cost effective to run.
The Robin SLX may be small and unassuming but it's big enough to deliver a top speed in excess of the legal limit and safely carry four persons .
Powered by the latest version of the renowned Reliant 848ce alloy engine, now built in Burntwood, this engine has served customers around the world for decades. Constant quality control and recent improvements ensure that you can expect impressive fuel economy.
The Robin SLX is equally at home touring the country-side or running around town. It is easily manoeuvred and has plenty of space to carry the shopping.
The Robin SLX is hand built with pride. Servicing is quick and efficient, spare parts are inexpensive. As rust is not a problem, a regularly serviced engine will ensure the Robin SLX gives you many years of low cost motoring.
The Robin LX/SLX
Offers a wide choice of body colours in solids or metallics, complemented by distinctive model decals. SLX models include as standard equipment: stereo cassette, locking petrol cap and cigar/cigarette lighter.
It's easy to park in the town and it is a pleasure to drive in the country, making it the ideal shopping car and the perfect tourer.
The Robin Pedigree
The Robin SLX has a character all of its own. Luxurious and fun to drive, it is also extremely reliable and very cost effective to run.
The Robin SLX may be small and unassuming but it's big enough to deliver a top speed in excess of the legal limit and safely carry four persons .
Powered by the latest version of the renowned Reliant 848ce alloy engine, now built in Burntwood, this engine has served customers around the world for decades. Constant quality control and recent improvements ensure that you can expect impressive fuel economy.
The Robin SLX is equally at home touring the country-side or running around town. It is easily manoeuvred and has plenty of space to carry the shopping.
The Robin SLX is hand built with pride. Servicing is quick and efficient, spare parts are inexpensive. As rust is not a problem, a regularly serviced engine will ensure the Robin SLX gives you many years of low cost motoring.
22 September 2000, 11:04 AM
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Well we can't all have Robins but I am going right out there to do a few mods to my scoob. Removing one of the front wheels will improve stability a lot. And that ridiculous turbo charged 2 litre engine is going, to be replaced by the superior 848 cc and a WHOLE BAG of chips.
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22 September 2000, 11:16 AM
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There is a downside to 'Pig' ownership....
I followed one once in the winter after heavy snow, the poor front wheel didn't know which wheelrut to follow, kept hopping between left and right - highly amusing.
Suppose you do save money on brake kits, alloys etc....
Neil (who actually drove past the old Reliant factory last night !)
I followed one once in the winter after heavy snow, the poor front wheel didn't know which wheelrut to follow, kept hopping between left and right - highly amusing.
Suppose you do save money on brake kits, alloys etc....
Neil (who actually drove past the old Reliant factory last night !)
22 September 2000, 11:32 AM
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Im just back from Marrenelo, quite tired from testing but im glad im back. God if only I knew this before I bought my pile of c@*p.
Thanks for the website, through it I traded in my 6 spd box for a 4. wooooooooow! what a transformation. Ive taken off my 17inch alloys and am now running on discs alone; this with the shorter ratios has reduced my 0-60 to 0.9secs. Oh and the handling is better...(read artical on tyre to road contact)...
If you want to see the new mods on my car whatch th e next gp...Its used as a pace car
Thanks for the website, through it I traded in my 6 spd box for a 4. wooooooooow! what a transformation. Ive taken off my 17inch alloys and am now running on discs alone; this with the shorter ratios has reduced my 0-60 to 0.9secs. Oh and the handling is better...(read artical on tyre to road contact)...
If you want to see the new mods on my car whatch th e next gp...Its used as a pace car
22 September 2000, 02:05 PM
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Good Banter, but enough I have work to do. 
Scott = start at 12.00 finish at 1.00 and have an hour for Lunch.
[This message has been edited by Scott J Davies (edited 22 September 2000).]
Scott = start at 12.00 finish at 1.00 and have an hour for Lunch.
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22 September 2000, 02:25 PM
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Your Momma's so big she has her own weather system
Look up Bermuda Triangle in the encyclopaedia and there is a picture of your Momma's Poonani
To work!...........oh knackers I’m off down the pub, see all you Kent blasters on Sunday, whey a quick drive from London to Coast and back home in time for a Bacon Butty.
Look up Bermuda Triangle in the encyclopaedia and there is a picture of your Momma's Poonani
To work!...........oh knackers I’m off down the pub, see all you Kent blasters on Sunday, whey a quick drive from London to Coast and back home in time for a Bacon Butty.
22 September 2000, 11:58 PM
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Funny this should come up as my latest project is a Reliant Robin with a mid mounted Rolly Royce Merlin engine from a 1944 Supermarine Spitfire VB. This kicks out about 4,000 bhp . Problem is , in any gear , use of the loud pedal causes the tyres to melt.
Any ideas ? Replies to The Enfield Mental Institution
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Any ideas ? Replies to The Enfield Mental Institution
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Sorry to interrupt, but thank you chiark for that link to reliant's website, it's the funniest site I've seen for ages!
Check out the "RACING GREEN SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION & ROYALE LIMITED EDITION" for one sexy looking motor! I think it's the "Centre Leather-style Glove Box with Soft Feel Trim" that does it for me, not to mention the kudos of having a robin with ally wheels and white dials, and, to cap it all, the roof mounted areial.
Oh my God, I can't myself any longer, i'm going now, be back in a few minutes...
Simon
Check out the "RACING GREEN SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION & ROYALE LIMITED EDITION" for one sexy looking motor! I think it's the "Centre Leather-style Glove Box with Soft Feel Trim" that does it for me, not to mention the kudos of having a robin with ally wheels and white dials, and, to cap it all, the roof mounted areial.
Oh my God, I can't myself any longer, i'm going now, be back in a few minutes...
Simon
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