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Old 26 August 2005, 05:15 PM
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Exclamation Petrol price 'control' ??

Just arrived in my Inbox so I thought I'd pass this on.......



We are hitting 95p a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with
paying £1 a litre and the businesses we work for will be feeling the pinch
too.

Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day"
campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just
laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by
refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a
problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan
that can really work. Please read it and join in!

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think
that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to
teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not sellers. With the price
of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only
way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone
in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT
hurting ourselves.

Here's the idea:
For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest
oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any
petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their
prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact,
we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's
really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this point... keep
reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at
least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more
(300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth
generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If
those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then
30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further,
you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all You have to
do is send this to 10 people. .....and not buy at ESSO/BP. How long would
all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within
one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted
within the next 8 days!!! Acting together we can make a difference. If this
makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE

Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda, Tesco,
Sainsburys, Morrisons, Jet etc. i.e. boycott Esso and BP.
Old 26 August 2005, 05:17 PM
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its getting about cos my inbox had about 10 of these in this morning
Old 26 August 2005, 05:19 PM
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its been around for ages this its a hoax as such its just designed so people forward onto there friends and slow down email for everyone. Be vary warey of anything that ends with forward this on to all your friends or similar.
Old 26 August 2005, 05:41 PM
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Mmmm thats interesting, does than mena i may have email 5* the uk population of 60 million


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Old 26 August 2005, 06:00 PM
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a) It's a hoax in the sense that no-one is going to do it.
b) It wouldn't work anyway.
Old 26 August 2005, 06:20 PM
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Spam e-mail best before date: 08/04/1999!!

This is a 6 year old e-mail and its still doing the friggin' rounds
Old 26 August 2005, 07:49 PM
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95p a litre! - I wish!
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Old 26 August 2005, 07:54 PM
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Actually it would work if the petrol companies controlled the world price of oil ......... they don't!!

So, its a dead duck in the water!!

Pete
Old 26 August 2005, 08:00 PM
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SIAL SIAL SIAL SIAL

Once for every time its been posted
Old 26 August 2005, 08:04 PM
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99.9 litre for super unleaded or 96.5 for optimax can u complain though its not as if the goverment is wasting the extra revenue
Old 26 August 2005, 08:08 PM
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petrol isnt expensive-its the 80% + tax the government put on it thats the problem! Without this ridiculous amount of tax added , the UKs petrol would be some of the cheapest in the world.
Old 26 August 2005, 08:49 PM
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The TAX has NOT gone up!!

We NEED this revenue to sustain the chavs and their 8 multi-coloured kids!!

Pete
Old 26 August 2005, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The TAX has NOT gone up!!

We NEED this revenue to sustain the chavs and their 8 multi-coloured kids!!

Pete
how much was petrol where you spent your holidays petey?
Old 26 August 2005, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mattvortex
petrol isnt expensive-its the 80% + tax the government put on it thats the problem! Without this ridiculous amount of tax added , the UKs petrol would be some of the cheapest in the world.
Absolutely correct! The UK imports petrol relatively cheaply and without the horrendous tax the government levy on our fuel, we'd have the cheapest petrol in Europe - fact.
Old 26 August 2005, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The TAX has NOT gone up!!

We NEED this revenue to sustain the chavs and their 8 multi-coloured kids!!

Pete
Was this post approved by your NL command centre?
Old 26 August 2005, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Trap2Terrorist
Absolutely correct! The UK imports petrol relatively cheaply and without the horrendous tax the government levy on our fuel, we'd have the cheapest petrol in Europe - fact.
So??

Let me get this straight, just so we all understand what you mean ........

Which service would you like to cut due to no revenue??

1. The elderly not to get their heating allowances?

2. The disabled to suffer without help or assistance?

3. Your family and others to do without the NHS and help at their time of need?

4. Schools to withdraw books from the school libraries?

5. The country to disarm and be defenceless?

6. Income Tax to increase to 80% across the board?

7. VAT to be 45%?

Or are you living in cuckoo land??

Pete
Old 27 August 2005, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by pnbond007
Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda, Tesco,
Sainsburys, Morrisons, Jet etc. i.e. boycott Esso and BP.
Boycott Esso & BP eh?

So, when did you last see an Asda oilrig, a Sainsbury's refinery, or a Morrisons pipeline??

Who do you think they get their petrol from? Toys R US?
Old 27 August 2005, 01:10 AM
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95p a litre ----- WHERE?

Trust it's SUL your referring to or else I'll look like a noob.

BP is 99.9p per litre for SUL : Robbing *****.
Old 27 August 2005, 08:35 AM
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SPAM and chips...
Old 27 August 2005, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pnbond007
two biggest
oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.
And here was me thinking that company mergers had to be reported to the stock market - obviously done on the QT this one
Old 27 August 2005, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
So??

Let me get this straight, just so we all understand what you mean ........

Which service would you like to cut due to no revenue??

1. The elderly not to get their heating allowances?

2. The disabled to suffer without help or assistance?

3. Your family and others to do without the NHS and help at their time of need?

4. Schools to withdraw books from the school libraries?

5. The country to disarm and be defenceless?

6. Income Tax to increase to 80% across the board?

7. VAT to be 45%?

Or are you living in cuckoo land??

Pete
as pete points out - tax on fuel contributes to the overall tax burden. if the tax burden wasn't met by soft-arsed motorists like me and you it would be met elsewhere, whether it be VAT or Income Tax.

what everyone is forgetting of course is that within 10-15years you won't be paying tax on fuel but this stunning idea of big brother to take away your liberty and monitor every journey you drive and charge you according to the road, time of day and level of congestion (£1.31 PER MILE in some areas at todays prices). so no doubt we will all be happier.

WRONG - the reason we have the cheapest fuel in Europe pre tax is that the fuel companies charge at a level that the market is willing to bear. we are all getting to the point where we don't want to bear more price increases. now, here's where the psychobable starts. when the tax is removed from fuel, the price will bomb to about 25p Litre (at current prices). Initially, demand for fuel (especially SUL) will go up because it FEELS cheaper to run the car. Prices will quickly go up as the initial demand goes up, upto a point that the market (ie you and me) will tollerate. So, if it went up by 5p a litre to 30p we would still take it on the chin, the petrol companies are happy and the gov't are happy because we will pay more in the big brother tax. (their argument is that it will change working patterns and make more use of the working day untill 9pm, reducing congestion. most people work 9-5pm because (this is the bit that none of the highly paid numpties at govt have noticed) of the school day and family life. and where do you think the £60bn will come from to set up the system? then there will be the running costs - the gov't says it will be cost nuetral, when was the last time the govt could use a calculator properly? and where will this tidy sum come from? yes, top prize to the soft-arsed motorist.

on the proposed new scheme, at todays prices: i travel 25 miles to work, and travel at peak times on v. busy raods. on this basis my work journey would go up to £327.50 per week (£1310 per month) before paying for fuel, insurance etc. lovely
Old 27 August 2005, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
So??

Let me get this straight, just so we all understand what you mean ........

Which service would you like to cut due to no revenue??

1. The elderly not to get their heating allowances?

2. The disabled to suffer without help or assistance?

3. Your family and others to do without the NHS and help at their time of need?

4. Schools to withdraw books from the school libraries?

5. The country to disarm and be defenceless?

6. Income Tax to increase to 80% across the board?

7. VAT to be 45%?

Or are you living in cuckoo land??

Pete
Cut benefits - and tell the lazy ******* to get a job - sorted

oh and reform all the inefficiency that is rife in every sector.
Old 27 August 2005, 12:08 PM
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Why, when the basic price of the fuel goes up unexpectedly, the massive % markup in tax which of course goes up by the same % is just happily swallowed as a bonus by the Govt. Surely when they set their budget, they have an assumption over basic fuel price, hence tax raised, and if it rises, they should be able to adjust the tax rate downwards to net the same as they expected, rather than pass it all on to motorists.


Although that IS cloud cuckoo land, isn't it...?
Old 27 August 2005, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Crosstalk
Why, when the basic price of the fuel goes up unexpectedly, the massive % markup in tax which of course goes up by the same % is just happily swallowed as a bonus by the Govt. Surely when they set their budget, they have an assumption over basic fuel price, hence tax raised, and if it rises, they should be able to adjust the tax rate downwards to net the same as they expected, rather than pass it all on to motorists.


Although that IS cloud cuckoo land, isn't it...?
If you understood fuel duty, you'd know it is a FIXED amount. 48.5p/litre.
The only bit that is proportional is the VAT element, which if fuel goes up by 10p/litre as it has done, is only giving an extra 1.75p to the goverment. Hardly the "massive" markup you're implying.
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Aha. Thanks for clarifying!
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