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Old 15 June 2005, 11:54 AM
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Default How much power to the new Type 25's have?

Was just reading up on the Type 25 out of interest (cannot afford one). There are very few indications of current power levels. Ian's site does not seem to have any info, other than the current ones have more power than the originals..

Any ideas peeps?
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Originally Posted by Luminous
Was just reading up on the Type 25 out of interest (cannot afford one). There are very few indications of current power levels. Ian's site does not seem to have any info, other than the current ones have more power than the originals..

Any ideas peeps?
350bhp and similar torque IIRC from an article in EVo magazine.

"Sufficient", as employees of Rolls Royce used to say ;-)

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Old 15 June 2005, 12:23 PM
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I wonder if they will become a thing of the past if subaru do bring out a 2.5 impreza
Old 15 June 2005, 12:31 PM
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Hmmm, not that much more than a TSL JDM STI 05 then. I know its not just about the power, there is always more to it than that. For the cost I was thinking that it would be closer to the 400bhp mark.

This may open a can of worms, but there will not be much between a standard M3, and a Type 25 in a straight line. Not too much difference in price either.

Dunno what I'm on about, by the time I can afford either I'll be an old man....
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Originally Posted by Luminous
This may open a can of worms, but there will not be much between a standard M3, and a Type 25 in a straight line. Not too much difference in price either.
The problem is that Price and straight line speed are not what M3's or Type25's are about, or at least they shouldn't be about. I'm of the opinion that these are two distinctively different cars with different purposes in life. you'd buy either one because it suits what you need it to do, but I'd be surprised if anyone bought both cars with the intention of doing the same thing with them, if that makes sense.

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Old 15 June 2005, 12:43 PM
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Yeah, makes sense, can see where you are coming from
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This is what Mog's car made out of the box



That's 392 ftlb of torque!

When I have the new airbox fitted I'll post up my numbers.

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I'm seriously interested in the Type 25. But i'm also a little concerened about the status of the 25 after the MY06 comes out with the suppositvley 2.5 engine in it also.
I know the suspension will be loads better on the 25.
But with 396ft/lbs of torque who cares about it just having a conservative 350bhp. Give me torque any day.
Maybe Iain can elaborate. I know he reads these forums.

Kevin

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in response to the m3 comment... didnt evo test the t25 doing 0-100 in 10.25 or something silly? so i think its more than capable of blasting an m3??

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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69
in response to the m3 comment... didnt evo test the t25 doing 0-100 in 10.25 or something silly? so i think its more than capable of blasting an m3??

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nothing silly about 100 in 10 secs these days - an Ultima can accelerate to 100 and brake to a stop in far less than that...
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Originally Posted by GRIFF007
nothing silly about 100 in 10 secs these days - an Ultima can accelerate to 100 and brake to a stop in far less than that...
but it cant carry the wife, two kids and the luggage though

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Originally Posted by GRIFF007
nothing silly about 100 in 10 secs these days - an Ultima can accelerate to 100 and brake to a stop in far less than that...
it may not be silly compared to an ultima... but its still very fast! I was mearly saying how it was compared to the m3, i was saying how its actually faster despite the similar power.
more than likely due to the massive torque and the gearing of the t25
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69
it may not be silly compared to an ultima... but its still very fast! I was mearly saying how it was compared to the m3, i was saying how its actually faster despite the similar power.
more than likely due to the massive torque and the gearing of the t25
You are indeed correct (Turbo = torque = acceleration) - the Ultima comment was just a bit of fun -'respect' to the Ultima boys - cant wait til the Stig gets his hands on one around their track -- bye, bye Enzo..!
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Originally Posted by peter budgen
but it cant carry the wife, two kids and the luggage though

budgie
and your point is...........................??!!
Old 15 June 2005, 04:17 PM
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i think the t25 has 350 bhp 356 lbs/ft standard but a t25 will get these fifures on any rolling road so therefore very conservative-have a drive and you will see
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Originally Posted by GRIFF007
and your point is...........................??!!
obvious

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Old 15 June 2005, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by peter budgen
but it cant carry the wife, two kids and the luggage though

budgie

Originally Posted by peter budgen
obvious

budgie
non-essential performance retarding ballast!! - yeah, yeah - confirmed bachelor - ought to get one of those supercharged Atoms with 700 bhp / ton i suppose!
Old 15 June 2005, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GRIFF007
Originally Posted by peter budgen
but it cant carry the wife, two kids and the luggage though

budgie



non-essential performance retarding ballast!! - yeah, yeah - confirmed bachelor - ought to get one of those supercharged Atoms with 700 bhp / ton i suppose!
The figures of 350bhp and 356lbs were on Powerstations old dyno which was known for being conservative, my new figures of 350bhp and 394lbs are on the new dyno and more realistic. Over taking is now faster without changing down than my old 440bhp RS4, and also peak torque is available from 3260rpm.

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Kevin,
I have been on holiday so have only just read the post. The difference between the way Type25 delivers its power is very different to Subaru's normal 2.5 STI. The engines are totally different to begin with Theres details on our Type 25 site www.type-25.com

We have tested and tuned a number of USDM STI's, in fact I imported the first one into the UK for Ecutek to develop their software , the MY06 car will be good but I think anyone chasing high bhp will be in for an expensive shock

Big power out of the 2.0l JDM Twinscroll is relatively straight forward but that does have to be balanced off with lots of other issues like warranty, appearance, noise, track use etc. I'm going to sound like Mike soon
As I’ve said on my site I don’t think the work Powerstation has done on Spec C’s (or Type 25’s for that matter) could have been tested more rigorously over the years So far we have had to do no engine warranty work at all and there is quite a few JDM cars out there

Feel free to call me and I'll run through the details

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Kevin,

the MY06 car will be good but I think anyone chasing high bhp will be in for an expensive shock

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Iain,

Out of interest, why does the above quote apply to the MY06?

Is it because it looks like an Alfa lol!

Damian.
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Originally Posted by SPEN555
Iain,

Out of interest, why does the above quote apply to the MY06?

Is it because it looks like an Alfa lol!

Damian.
LOL

Better an Alfa than a Toyota!

Caveat: As long as it doesn't have the reliability probs of an Alfa!
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