tonydry

hi guys new to the subaru ownership bought a wrx type ra 2 weeks ago running 320 bhp drove it about five times since i picked it up tonight was in 3rd overtakeing a car up 2 about 5500 revs and the car vilently pulls back like a boost cut i look down see oil light on pull over with smoke comeing from under bonet had a look around and theres oil everywere and a hole in the top off the block havent had chance to look at it more this evening as its dark now any ideas what could have cased this tnx ....tony

flat4_ire

cant help u there as im new to scooby ownership, but i feel for ya man, did u know the guy u bought it off??

coolboy

hi mate
i had the same prob about 8 mths ago, crank decided it wanted out for no apparent reason, cause unknown, cost about 3.5k, thats a brand new block from subaru and reputable subaru specialist to fit it, plus all head work. then 2000 miles into new engine(run in as instructed to the letter) and that one decides to let go as well. (bummer hey)

Stiver3

Sounds like a head gasket. when the Check Engine light comes up the car will go into safety mode and only boost to like 4.5rpm More likely to be where the oil has been over filled and where the header tank is chucking out the water mixed with oil.


Check the water level when this happens.... is there water in pipes to the rad etc.....

Get the scoob sniffed as well.... then u know if it is head gasket or not...

charlie

R19KET

Tonydry,

I'm really sorry this has happened to you, but based on your description, it's most likely that a rod has punched the hole in the block.

This could be caused by a piston seizing, a big end going, and the rod seizing on the crank, or a rod bolt snapping. any one of these, plus a few other things could cause this.

Unfortunately, at the very least, it will need a new short engine, with luck the heads will be ok.


Mark.

tonydry

tnx guys as ive only just bought the car it looks like it will be off road for quite sometime now as im gona have to save up to sort it out gona have a better look at it today ill get some picks up see what u think tnx again for the response ...tony

pslewis

Thats really bad news ............. I would be interested in seeing the pictures!

As an aside, why do people think it strange that running an engine at 320BHP and 5500RPM results in a destroyed engine? - I'm certainly NOT having a pop at you in your hour of need, you have only had the car a short while ......... but I am confused as to why its all so shocking to people on ScoobyNet (they are, after all, petrolheads - so should know better?)

Good luck with the diagnosis, I hope its just a blown head gasket - but if it is a hole then thats it I think.

Pete

StickyMicky

i feel your pain mate, mine went on tuesday, although i was pushing quite a bit harder then you and mines got 100k miles on it (at least 40k have been ***** out thrashing )i have been expecting it to go for a while anyway

pricey things these subarus lol

GRIFF007

the only good news that could come out of this is that this would be the time to change to a 2.5 bottom end, which will be less stressed and provide as much if not more genuine power easily - time to do massive research all over scoobynet incl Projects to see who can do best job at best price - wild guess would be c £3500 give or take £1k

End result would be a fabulous car, although not the first of its type

good luck

ex-webby

Pete,
It has to be said, you do talk some crap at times!

Regards,
Shaun.

pslewis

And it has to be said, "In your opinion"

Subaru design this engine to deliver 215BHP in standard form - increasing that by more than 50% is asking for trouble .................... hardly talking crap!?

I mean a UK STi with PPP throws out 300BHP, but its a Subaru/Prodrive designed power increase ..............

And I stand by my shock that petrolheads on here complain when engines blow-up ............. when they are stressed beyond their capabilities

Maybe I'm just really clever and smart and can understand the mechanics of machines better than your average ScoobyNetter????

Pete

StickyMicky

the impreza was launched in japan first and was therefore designed to put out 240 PS

JohnD

iTrader: (5)

Don't forget, the guy has an RA so it's got STi internals which should, if it's all in good condition, have no problem with 320 bhp, assuming of course that this power was achieved in this country with a map suitable for our fuel? Maybe before anything else, he should investigate where and how the power was achieved?
JohnD

tonydry

hi guys the car was bought from someone on this site and had been mapped bye scooby clinic to run uk fuel rr at 316 bhp



Modifications:
Pace Front Mount intercooler inc. uprated Rad.
ScoobyECU (mapped for uk fuel)
2 bar map sensor
Blitz Nur Spec R exhaust
Magnex decat downpipe
P1 suspension
K&N inducton kit (with cold air feed/box)
Uprated Clutch

as to the car been taken to 5.5k revs its not like the car was drove non stop on the limit ive drove it maybe 5 times since i bought it and i havent drove it to what i would consider its limits once. This was a simple overtakeing manouver wich any car should be capable off never mind a subaru to say the least im am disapointed i dont have 3k laying around as ive only just forked out 6.5k for the car im going to look into a diy job if posable and i can find enough decent info ..tony

ex-webby

Pete,
And what has your comment got to do with this car!!! As pointed out by other people we are on about a JDM spec car here..... come on Peter, dont let your superior interlect be questioned by the fact that you cant read!

Regards,
Shaun.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Tony,

Speak with the guys at Prosport (0161 432 9999) and see what they can do, though it sounds like a full rebuild to me
Out of curiosity, what fuel have you been running the car on? plus when was the car last serviced?

Tony

tonydry

car was serviced just before i bought it new cam belt plugs all oil's changed full job it has been filled up 3 times since i got it with optimax .Carnt get any pics up off damge camera is dead but looks like a rod has come out the top off the block far right side

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Hmmmm do you know who serviced the car?
Things unfortunately dont go for no reason
What i will say though, is when shes back up and running go down to Jap Innovations (oldham) and buy a knocklink and sensor from them, its a bit of a must on a JDM import, remap or not ( www.jap-innovations.co.uk )
But see what Prosport can do for you first

Tony

pslewis

Are you telling me that his WRX Type RA is designed by FHI to run at 320BHP, in that is the ACTUAL recommended output and how it is sold in Japan?

What I can find out is this statement:-

"The WRX Type-RA competition base model is designed for entry in motor sport. With an intercooler water spray and close ratio transmission gearbox, horsepower is at 240PS/6000rpm and torque at 31.0Kg-m/5000rpm (WRX & WRX Type-RA)"

That would be a NO on your behalf then to my question? I can find NOWHERE a record of FHI launching an Impreza 2.0Litre Turbo with more than 300BHP - you MUST ask yourself why?? Maybe, just maybe, the engines cannot take that amount of power?? Just a wild guess!

The car was designed to run at 240PS @ 6000RPM ...... this car was pushing out 320BHP @ I assume, 6000RPM??

Sorry, but my point remains valid ............. taking the power UP by about 35% is not going to result in anything but a destroyed engine, period.

Pete

ps. this has nothing to do with Tonydry's predicament, just a general observation that you mod your cars at serious risk!!

tonydry

scooby clinic serviced it fitted all the extras and mapped it im on in ashton so will pop up to jap inovations when it gets back on the road

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Prosport is in stockport, just off the junction west juntion of the M60 (pyrimid), follow for didsbury, you want to turn off at station road which is about 2-3 miles up there, or you can look for them on the subaru uk website, they are an authorised subaru uk service centre as well as servicing JDM cars like mine

Jap innovations is pretty easy to find, you can either go passed the Broad Oak pub and out towards oldham that way (find its the easiest but cant remember the name of the road ) or you can drive into oldham, hit the big roundabout, turn right to the juntion before ashton road, down through the first set of lights, over the bumps, hit another set of lights, turn left there, and its near the next main junction, you turn left, by the post office sorting office.

Tony

tonydry

awsome tony tnx alot mate well will be awile before its back on the road gota get saveing 3k is the best quote so far lol id rather break it than pay that to be honest . if i dont find anywere a little cheaper ill have a go at doin it myself i guess my last car had a cav 2.0l turbo lump in it and bye comparison the scoob looks a little more dificult to work with lol

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Lees road, go that way (thought of it now ) you just follow that into oldham, first set of lights you turn right (there is a right hand lane and some shops, straight on takes you to the big roundabout) then as i put before

Tony

tonydry

tnx mate ill defo be poping buy when its done think ill begine to strip it down one i get enough info and can work out what i need to replace

tonydry

considering selling it as it is now any ideas what id get for it as i think id end up selling when i fixed it anyway dont think id enjoy driveing it again

SPEN555

Just a thought,

When you took it up to 5.5k revs to overtake how many miles had you been driving it? You would be suprised how long the oil takes to get up to operating temperature. Mine takes at least 5 miles.