View Poll Results: HAVE YOU EVER GONE THROUGH A RED
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Have you ever gone through a red light BE HONEST!
18 May 2005, 07:19 PM
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Yes I have gone through red lights. A local set to me takes ages to change. At 5 am in the morning and you can CLEARLY see that nothing is coming I jump this particular set. At no other time of the day do I jump these lights, and very very rarely do I jump other lights. And when I have it has been in a similar circumstance.
What I do not do is drive around without reg plates, go through red lights and have to swerve to miss other traffic
What I do not do is drive around without reg plates, go through red lights and have to swerve to miss other traffic
18 May 2005, 07:33 PM
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You drove like a **** and you got caught; you dont even deny driving like a ****. Youve been bleating about this for months now ffs, let it go.
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18 May 2005, 08:33 PM
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I do it at least 5 times a day. I get away with it though as I have flashing blue lights and sirens
Have never done it in my car though!
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18 May 2005, 10:19 PM
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How can you have options of "sometimes" or "all the time" to a question of "have you ever"? 
Does sometimes mean "yesterday, I'd jumped one back in 1998, but today I'd never jumped one in the past" 
I think - like most people - there will have been occassions where I failed to stop at a light just when it's changing and I could have slammed on the brakes and stopped; there's always a judgement call over which is the safest option, particularly if there's someone behind you. I'm sure many people will also have biased this judgement to take account of e.g. 20 yard roadworks controlled by temporary traffic lights on an empty bit of road. Slightly different thing to deliberately setting off in the middle of a red phase, however.
Does sometimes mean "yesterday, I'd jumped one back in 1998, but today I'd never jumped one in the past" I think - like most people - there will have been occassions where I failed to stop at a light just when it's changing and I could have slammed on the brakes and stopped; there's always a judgement call over which is the safest option, particularly if there's someone behind you. I'm sure many people will also have biased this judgement to take account of e.g. 20 yard roadworks controlled by temporary traffic lights on an empty bit of road. Slightly different thing to deliberately setting off in the middle of a red phase, however.
18 May 2005, 10:50 PM
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Red lights
Anyone going through a red light is taking a chance...I was a Fast Response Police driver for many years working on the outskirts of Birmingham City centre.
When I did a light it was as calculated as it could be and I had lights and sirens to warn other road users of my presence.....even then people dont see or hear you...their light is green and thats all they see.
I was so grateful when I did it that I got through without incident.
Its supposed to be the safest way to cross another road junction........we all know what can happen when you jump a red light...its not worth the risk...even when you are late for work!
When I did a light it was as calculated as it could be and I had lights and sirens to warn other road users of my presence.....even then people dont see or hear you...their light is green and thats all they see.
I was so grateful when I did it that I got through without incident.
Its supposed to be the safest way to cross another road junction........we all know what can happen when you jump a red light...its not worth the risk...even when you are late for work!
18 May 2005, 11:46 PM
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aim to get through yellow lights if possible. If its a local area, middle of the nite and the lights are stuck for ages i might roll though, not on crossroads though, just small sets that strangely dont seem to have a reason for their existence 
18 May 2005, 11:59 PM
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I've had, let's say, a senior moment with 2 close together sets of lights. stopped at the first set when it was on green, drove through the next one on red. one of those early morning, no other cars on the road type thing
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19 May 2005, 11:51 AM
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In Turin they seem to be optional, especially early morning.
In Japan there is a lot of "down time" when the lights change, so you frequently see cars go through a couple of seconds after the lights have changed provided no-one's waiting to turn right. Worryingly cars jump lights before they go green too. I'm often surprised there aren't more accidents here.
I've gone through temporary traffic lights in the UK where I knew the road and knew that no cars were coming the other way (night time, no oncoming lights, clear line of sight). Never jumped fixed lights though, too many traffic light heros make it too dangerous, not to mention the cameras.
In Japan there is a lot of "down time" when the lights change, so you frequently see cars go through a couple of seconds after the lights have changed provided no-one's waiting to turn right. Worryingly cars jump lights before they go green too. I'm often surprised there aren't more accidents here.
I've gone through temporary traffic lights in the UK where I knew the road and knew that no cars were coming the other way (night time, no oncoming lights, clear line of sight). Never jumped fixed lights though, too many traffic light heros make it too dangerous, not to mention the cameras.
19 May 2005, 12:27 PM
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Might be a good idea to remind us of UK300-199's pertainent thread
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428016
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http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428016
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19 May 2005, 01:15 PM
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Yes in particular places. The "law" is a *** sometimes.
For example there is a junction near me where there is a slip road for going left - seperate slip road with broken white lines where it meets the road perpendicular to it. The slip road is seperated off from the main carriageway. Most of the traffic goes up and down the main road that you've just turned off. There is little traffic coming down the side road. But the lights are there just in case something needs to turn across the main carriageway.
On the slip road the lights are about 5 metres back from the broken white lines. I see no problem creeping up to the broken white lines while watching to your right for any traffic, even if the light is red. In effect you are treating it as a T junction.
So there is no danger as long as you treat it like a T junction and are prepared to give way and be cautious, like you would at any T junction. This is the nanny state at its worst, so I sometimes ignore the red light, it is not there for safety after all.
For example there is a junction near me where there is a slip road for going left - seperate slip road with broken white lines where it meets the road perpendicular to it. The slip road is seperated off from the main carriageway. Most of the traffic goes up and down the main road that you've just turned off. There is little traffic coming down the side road. But the lights are there just in case something needs to turn across the main carriageway.
On the slip road the lights are about 5 metres back from the broken white lines. I see no problem creeping up to the broken white lines while watching to your right for any traffic, even if the light is red. In effect you are treating it as a T junction.
So there is no danger as long as you treat it like a T junction and are prepared to give way and be cautious, like you would at any T junction. This is the nanny state at its worst, so I sometimes ignore the red light, it is not there for safety after all.
19 May 2005, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Miniman
Yes in particular places. The "law" is a *** sometimes.
For example there is a junction near me where there is a slip road for going left - seperate slip road with broken white lines where it meets the road perpendicular to it. The slip road is seperated off from the main carriageway. Most of the traffic goes up and down the main road that you've just turned off. There is little traffic coming down the side road. But the lights are there just in case something needs to turn across the main carriageway.
On the slip road the lights are about 5 metres back from the broken white lines. I see no problem creeping up to the broken white lines while watching to your right for any traffic, even if the light is red. In effect you are treating it as a T junction.
So there is no danger as long as you treat it like a T junction and are prepared to give way and be cautious, like you would at any T junction. This is the nanny state at its worst, so I sometimes ignore the red light, it is not there for safety after all.
For example there is a junction near me where there is a slip road for going left - seperate slip road with broken white lines where it meets the road perpendicular to it. The slip road is seperated off from the main carriageway. Most of the traffic goes up and down the main road that you've just turned off. There is little traffic coming down the side road. But the lights are there just in case something needs to turn across the main carriageway.
On the slip road the lights are about 5 metres back from the broken white lines. I see no problem creeping up to the broken white lines while watching to your right for any traffic, even if the light is red. In effect you are treating it as a T junction.
So there is no danger as long as you treat it like a T junction and are prepared to give way and be cautious, like you would at any T junction. This is the nanny state at its worst, so I sometimes ignore the red light, it is not there for safety after all.
19 May 2005, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GrollySTI
That sounds a bit like the red light rules for the USA - you can turn with the direction of traffic so long as its clear...very effective I found.
19 May 2005, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GrollySTI
That sounds a bit like the red light rules for the USA - you can turn with the direction of traffic so long as its clear...very effective I found.
Plus I do it to feel like a rebel :-) I object to our local council spending thousands on a set of traffic lights that are not needed, when that money could be spend on a school or something much more deserving. As any complaints to the local council will get nowhere, I ignore the red light instead. Fight the power and all that :-)
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