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Old 17 May 2005, 05:09 PM
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Anyone read it yet? I'm off down the newsagent first thing
Old 17 May 2005, 05:16 PM
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Received sub copy today.... Nissan 350Z GT4 wins..... STI second, Evo third, Clio V6 last.....
Old 17 May 2005, 06:53 PM
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HA......no way is the 350z gt better then the sub or evo.
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I'd say they were right on the money with that right up!
Old 18 May 2005, 01:35 PM
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The GT4 is not as quick as my P1 as it weighs about 1500kg, but it's a lot of fun with 280-300 bhp and only rear wheel drive. It's obviously a very different experience to our "rally replica" nutterboxes...

Turns in really well and can be steered on the throttle very easily. Bedford Autodrome have a fleet of these with the Nismo exhaust (sounds good) and Nismo Brembo brakes (very good, especially in such a heavy car) and I had a riot in them to the extent that my car felt just a little dull on the way home... There will be a programme on Men and Motors later in the Summer showing this day where one lucky so and so won a 350Z GT4 (chassis No 1) which will show just how much fun these things can be.
Old 18 May 2005, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
There will be a programme on Men and Motors later in the Summer showing this day where one lucky so and so won a 350Z GT4 (chassis No 1) which will show just how much fun these things can be.
Was this part of the gran turismo 4 competition?
Old 18 May 2005, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rizzy
HA......no way is the 350z gt better then the sub or evo.
they didn't say as much as the 350z was better to live with day to day !
Old 18 May 2005, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Edcase
Was this part of the gran turismo 4 competition?
Yup
Old 18 May 2005, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Racer
they didn't say as much as the 350z was better to live with day to day !
The question should be better at what?

Driving across the continent? Scratching down a B road? Around a quick, smooth racetrack? In MaccyD's carpark?

We drove them on the wet (North) circuit - suprsisingly good grip, good brakes and a lot of leery sideways stuff, and then on the dry fast West Circuit. Grunty things and very sideways ( too much so in my case, a few times - didn't spin it but it was veeerry close. I was having such a laugh that I ballsed at least 3 things up very lap ...)

I really like my P1, but these were great fun and would be very comfortable cruisers on the motorway too on the way home
Old 18 May 2005, 05:00 PM
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Much as I dislike all things French (apart from their countryside, oh and the way they disegard laws they don't agree with) if they were giving 'em out I'd have to plump for the clio V6. It certainly looks the biz even if it doesn't quite do it.
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A matter of personal taste i know, but i have always thought the Clio V6 was one of the ugliest cars on the road.

Like seeing one of these "Max Power" 1.1 Saxo's
Old 18 May 2005, 05:21 PM
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My eye was drawn to a 350z in black yesterday and id have to say looked very smooth...and so bladdy what if its not as quick as an sti...maybe im gettin old....... 2 seats mind having said that.
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I said it wasn't as quick as a P1, didn't mention the lardy Sti

Where's my big wooden spoon?
Old 19 May 2005, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cookstar
A matter of personal taste i know, but i have always thought the Clio V6 was one of the ugliest cars on the road.

Like seeing one of these "Max Power" 1.1 Saxo's
I'd have to agree! Very 'Max Power'

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Old 19 May 2005, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cookstar
A matter of personal taste i know, but i have always thought the Clio V6 was one of the ugliest cars on the road.

Like seeing one of these "Max Power" 1.1 Saxo's
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Old 19 May 2005, 07:50 PM
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I very nearly went fot the Clio V6, but opted for the 350z as it was a little (but not a lot !) more practical :





Glad I went for the 350z, but I'd still love a Clio. "Boy Racer's Wet Dream"
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So what about the negative comments about the STI (everyone wants to reace ou, cut you off, abuse you etc)

Is it that bad with the new STIs?
Old 21 May 2005, 10:09 AM
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To be fair I did have a good look at the clio, for the first time (properly), last night. Maybe the previous post was a bit to harsh. Looks O.K is as far as i would go now though.

Still just not my cup of tea. 350Z stunning car

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Old 21 May 2005, 02:15 PM
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I see they still have to use a JDM Spec Evo against a euro spec Subaru

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Old 21 May 2005, 04:28 PM
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should have used a spec c tony
Old 21 May 2005, 06:19 PM
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Any JDM car would have been better but for years they keep putting JDM evo v UK car, now they have a euro evo they STILL put a JDM car against a UK car, defeats the point if they dont go JDM v JDM imho.

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Old 21 May 2005, 06:48 PM
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I see they still have to use a JDM Spec Evo against a euro spec Subaru
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Originally Posted by Rasher
Whats that for?
Its completely true, the JDM STi is a completely different beast over the UK car, Twin scroll turbo, quick rack steering, and any other advancements they like to add (auto ic water spray etc )
Yet they ALWAYS use a JDM Spec Evo, be it an FQ or the MR, these are not euro spec cars, they are grey imports, jap market cars only, brought into the uk and enhanced by xtreme.
They didnt use the euro car? and why not? because its not competative enough? considering all those mitsubishi owners say they easily push 280bhp, not a problem in that crowd

Tony
Old 21 May 2005, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Whats that for?
Its completely true, the JDM STi is a completely different beast over the UK car, Twin scroll turbo, quick rack steering, and any other advancements they like to add (auto ic water spray etc )
Yet they ALWAYS use a JDM Spec Evo, be it an FQ or the MR, these are not euro spec cars, they are grey imports, jap market cars only, brought into the uk and enhanced by xtreme.
They didnt use the euro car? and why not? because its not competative enough? considering all those mitsubishi owners say they easily push 280bhp, not a problem in that crowd

Tony
Bit of a contradiction Tony, as you rightly point out they are JDM cars tweaked by Mitsi for the UK market. They are not available in the same spec in Japan and are therefore UK spec. They are available from UK main dealerships, unlike the JDM only Sti which is only available via import.

The Evo 260 available in the UK and the rest of Europe is actually an Evo 7 with an 8 nose and tail. I suspect the point of the test was to compare the Evo9.
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