Turbo Dave

Hi there.

After a long break its looking like im coming back to Scooby land.

Im thinking of getting a P1 on a v plate in sonic blue.

I have limited knowledge on these so need to know how tuneable they are etc??

Ultimately with the price of around 20 grand is this the best for the money or would an STI be better???

Help is appreciated
Cheers

bighead

iTrader: (1)

the 1st P1 were registered in 2000 so will be a "W" plate
very tunable (mine is 360-380 bhp )
but sti5-6 is cheaper

Mitchy260

I'd have the Type R over the P1. Save yourself around £5000 for what is basically the same car.

£15-18000 is too much to pay for a 5yr old 1st generation impreza IMO.

The P1/22B are classic cars the same with the escort cossie and clio williams. They appeal to the true enthusiast, hence why they are still valued so high!

R.B

If you can find a low mileage mint one i would go for it i still think the p1 looks great on the road.

Here is my old one sold it with 8k on the clock






R.B

BigMikeyBoy

Get yourself over to P1WOC.CO.UK!
Plenty of usefull info and normally a good example for sale every so often!

Mikey

Brun

A whole lot of car - but in no way, shape or form would i throw 20k at one

Iwan

There's a bloke over on http://www.p1woc.co.uk selling a P1 that's done around £60k miles for around £15k. However it's a 1 (enthusiast) owner car with full documented history from day 1, definately worth a look.

http://www.p1woc.co.uk is the best place to go if you're after info about the P1, very helpful bunch over there.

I've had both, previously I had a P1 but now I have a STI5 Type R. Both very similar, but also a few key differences.

P1 has higher gearing and no DCCD, fine for 99% of conditions you'll come across in the UK. Type R has silly low gearing and a DCCD, so isn't as relaxed for motorway cruising.

P1 front splitter is lower, fine unless you live in Swindon or anywhere with millions of speed bumps.

P1 is a UK car, and most still have warranty which is extendable. You can get them serviced at any Subaru main dealers. Some main dealers won't touch a JDM import.

Both have the same engine but the P1 doesn't have intercooler waterspray, no idea how much difference that makes.

Insurance is about the same, imports are always a bit more expensive than UK cars but the P1 is group 20. I'm 31 with 5 yrs NCB, the P1 cost £771 fully comp and the Type R cost £818 fully comp (though that includes mods).

Turbo Dave

Thanks for all the responses!

Like you say the P1 is a lot of money but its a love at first sight kind of thing

Ive toyed with getting an Evo before this but now have my heart set

Littleman

Get one defo! My old one is on sale at Robertsbridge (see you're at H-Heath). Great car, you'll enjoy it without a doubt. Ben

Wuss

Dave,

I seriously recommend having a chat with my friend Chris [user - ChrisS/P1]. He is a top chap and he is currently selling his P1. His car is superb and has been pampered regardless of cost. He lives near junction 4A on the M3 so that isn't too far away from you and he will be able to answer most of your questions about the P1. His car does 'seem' to have high mileage at 65k, but it still drives like new and I would have it off him if I didn't live in London.

If I was in the market for a P1 I would look for the following:

- no major modifications (full decat, etc) unless a professional remap has been carried out
- should have a brake upgrade (brembo, AP, etc) unless you fancy getting intimate with a tree!
- some sort of warranty, no matter how small
- preferably one that has never been on a track
- if the car has over 40k miles I would look for one which has had the MAF replaced and preferably the gearbox (gearbox failures happen more often than you think and they are costly if replaced outside of a warranty).

You can find his thread here:

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413356

Please PM me if I can be of any help.

Mark.

doug2507

iTrader: (6)

STi6 Type R V.Ltd! So few in the country (far less than the P1) and due to new import restrictions they are now unavailable for import. Only 1000 made with only a handfull in the uk (ver.6). A little more exclusive than the P1 i think. One for sale at New Era Imports for around 14 or 15k. Possibly the last one imported...
For an all out drivers car go for the type r but if you prefer something a little more user friendly and a possible warranty, then go for the P1. Check out the type R corner for some background info.

Doug.

vindaloo

Interesting that you should mention that. P1 front lip is supposed to be 5.7 inches. Maximum legal height for speed bumps is 4 inches. Though I guess camber can reduce the clearance. Some council(s) has had to remove its speed bumps after they were found to be out of spec (too big).

J.

scoobynutta555

I'm thinking of selling. Scoobysport decat blitz nur spec R mid/back end, TSL 6 pots with large discs, crystal indicators, tracker, *zenon*(sp) front lamps.


42k, FSSH,no previous owners, proper subaru warranty for 14 months. .

Mostly motorway miles, and it's not even sniffed a track.

I've had a decat since the car was a week old. And i'm pretty sure the MAF is only a problem with cars that have non standard air filters. And it will be a problem with all imprezas at that age.

Good to see somebody else has actually owned an sti typeR and a P1. Get a bit fed up of reading on here about people saying which is better having only owned, or dreamt of owning, one of them.

The Trooper 1815

iTrader: (31)

Have a look at this one Butty!

The Grand Slam.

http://www.subaru.r66internet.co.uk/...p?ID=500402987


http://www.subaru.r66internet.co.uk/...entreID=267722

CyprusScooby

Get an STi Type-R V5 or 6! Its a far better and more complete car!!!!

scoobynutta555

Iwan

Well, the MAF in MY99/00 cars is known to be notoriously unreiable whether you have an induction kit or not. I had one fail at 41k on my first MY99, just replaced one on my Type R, that's also at 41k but the MAF hadn't failed yet.

The new MAFs for these have a green stripe on the outside o fthe housing, they're supposed to be a lot stronger.

There isn't a lot in it really. Though the P1 is definately more user friendly for day to day use and commuting etc with sensible gearing and a 'normal' differential setup. The R is a bit more extreme, I'm finding I'm running out of gears a lot more often in this. In an ideal world I'd have one of each!

P1's are getting rarer - 2 more written off this week!

turbo nutta

My P1 is now up for sale!

http://www.p1woc.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7024

automodellistagt

thats your one? nice motor that btw

ChrisS/P1

Mine is currently up for sale aswell:-

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416182

Chris