scoobymoo

Had my first ever big moment in a scoob(or anything else come to think of it) last night (after 3 years with a MY99ppp followed by my P1). Came out of Slough onto the huntercombe spur (junction 7 M4). Roadworks on the spur itself so kept to 40 then went onto slip road to head back towards London on the M4, accelerated up to 80 and then approached the bend onto the motorway. The road was damp so slowed to 70 for the bend, its not a tight bend by any means and in the dry can be took at 90 -100 easy (in theory, never done it in practice ). So I am taking the bend at 70 on constant throttle and all of a sudden without warning the car starts spinning. It was akin to lift off oversteer but I hadn't lifted off or done anything to precipitate it so could not anticipate and catch it. Did one and half full spins and ended up perpendicular to the flow of traffic half on half off the hard shoulder. Thankfully there was no traffic and I managed to avoid the barriers but it hasn't half shat me up. I am assuming it was diesel on the road as I cannot think of any explanation. Just goes to show, one minute your cruising along in your rally derived super saloon and next minute your spinning in a cloud of tyre smoke praying you don't hit anything!
Think its time I did one of those driver training courses I keep meaning to do. Be careful out there.

Harry_Boy

All too easy mate....

Had a similar experience many years ago in a VW Polo - first car I'd bought with my own wage! Doesn't half **** you up.....

At least you lived to tell the tale, and the Scoob's intact!

Danny B

Thank God you were in a car and not some poor sod on a bike.
Facking diesel...

automodellistagt

its funny what you think about isnt it?

Its not 'im going to die!!!'

its " dont damage the car!! "

pippyrips

it seems diesel is common place on the roads after viewing on scoobynet- exactly how is it getting everywhere?? is it down to leaking etc of just general exhaust s**t?

Moray

Its ****** bus/truck drivers overfilling their fuel tanks

pbee

the amount of lorrys you see missing the filler cap or using a rag is unreal.

buzzuk

Only having owned a scoob for 3 months i had a moment a couple of weeks ago, i went round a left hand bend onto a dual carriage way, halfway through the bend i nailed it, it went sideways shat the living daylights out of me i was off the throttle on the throttle trying to straighten her up i was white as a sheet. Never do i do that on wet bends anymore

PaulT00

Had the same kind of thing on a fast-ish sweeper in Bristol a while back - constant throttle, then suddenly the back end went. By the David Lloyd centre on the A370. Caught me completely by surprise, overcorrected but managed to catch it (just). Diesel from buses using the park&ride...

Stupid thing is my other half was in the car and wasn't half as shook up as me - the quote was "I knew you would catch it"... to which the response was "well I wish you'd told me then cos I !^!%%£" didn't!"

JayCole

Exactly the same happened to me in my first P1 up by the handycross roundabout in High Wycombe, unlucky for me though I span straight into the central resevervation barrier causing about 8 grand worth of damage!

Jap2Scrap

That's the trouble with AWD vehicles. They're the hardest to lose control of but they're damn near impossible to regain when they go. The new viscous diffs and that help but it's all a bit touch and go for me. FWD - put some power down and pull out of it, RWD - let the power off and steer out of it, AWD - which end bites first is anyone's guess

New_scooby_04

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Glad to hear both you and the Scooby are ok mate. I was a passenger in an old series MR2 in such an incident recently. I think the driver applied a bit too much power before the apex of the bend, but the car shouldn't have let go as quickly as it did. We ended up facing the other way into oncomming traffic on a slip road! An MX5 driver pulled over and said that exactly the same thing had happened to him earlier in the day. I suspect is was a diesel spillage. Scary stuff but everyone and the car was ok, so no harm done.

Best.

ademid

Had the same thing happen to me in my other halves three day old Mini cooper!!!!! I thank the gods I didn't hit anything but really made me think about (an inoffensive looking "water" splash).

Ade.

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Ahh another scooby backend bites.

You haven't driven a scooby until you've spun it.

Very tricky to say what to do to counteract it. As every situation is different. Last time I recovered from such inccident required me on full throttle just to stop the back end from continuing its course, sliding myself sideways, then snatching and spinning the other way (too much opposite lock ),before finally straigtening out and changing my underwear.

Diesel is a big enemy, I'm pretty sure it was to partly to blame for my 1 and only ever fender bender. From previous experience on trying to stop on a wet diesel covered road it must have taken at least 4 times the normal stopping distance than a dry road.

There are alot scrapper trucks round here. All leak like seives. The once a truck parked at the top of a hill whilst raining leaked enough diesel to cover 1/8mile of the hill, the havoc that ensued at the junction and bend at the bottom was like the police car pile up on Blues Brothers

marklemac

Similar thing happended to me one night going home. In my Skyline R33 GTR, doing 30 mph exiting a roundabout (we live on a main diesel tanker router) in the dry (bone dry, not damp) and the car just let go. did a 180, hit the kerb, mounted it, and across the grass and dropped into a ditch. Car was a write off GUTTED.

Previous to this I had a 95WRX and could do that roundabout at about 45ish no problems, so 30 was quite slow.

That was 4 years ago. I take that roundabout real easy since.

Since then, I have seen 4 cars in the same ditch facing the same direction.

Makes me feel better

Like scoobymoo says, take it easy out there.

Paulo P

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Do you work on the trading estate? I work on Slough estates and have seen a P1 just round the corner from my work.

Lum

Bloody diesel.
At least petrol evaporates. Diesel just sits there forever. When it rains it floats to the surface a bit and causes accidents, then the rain water evaporates and it sits there again. The bus routes in my part of liverpool are trecherous in the wet.
With the growing popularity of diesel family cars it's only going to get worse? You know the old bloke down the road with the clapped out Escort that coats your windscreen in oil if you drive behind him. In 10 years time he'll have a Skoda diesel that is leaking somewhere along the fuel lines and no intention of fixing it.

Dave_A

sure this wasn't a case of "fuel surge"?

Dave
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STI4ME

Glad you and car are ok mate, but seriously, that is NOT a gentle bend! These cars are very capable, but that's a medium tight bend, with (as you now know) nothing between you and the carriageway. I've often thought "What if..." when driving round that bend, and yes you can go around it with a bit of pace in the dry, but in the wet, on a medium tight bend, with three lanes of motorway on the outside of it!!! You're very lucky, and so are all the people a few seconds from making contact with you. Stay safe!

Colinj

Only **** mah pants moments ive had in mine was when I aquaplaned on the motorway at 90mph in the dark...........**** knows how I didnt hit anything other than the side of the grass verge - I think I had my eyes shut the whole time


Oh that and hitting a Crow on the motorway while giving my mate the scooby experience

Ive never managed to spin it tho....think that will probably be my next trick!

Echo

Chap I know was driving his 2.0 Legacy at average speeds (within speed limit etc) in the damp and on a mild bend the whole thing went and he ended up rolling it several times.

Thing is, he's just had a letter from plod telling him that they will be hitting him with a careless driving charge, but if he goes on a driver training thingy they'll only tell him off!



Mike

scoobymoo

I certainly do, occasionally I've had to park it right outside so thats probably when you've seen it.

billythekid

I dont think anyone has mentioned this yet but skid pan training is a good idea for everyone so if you do come into this sort of situation then, where possible you can get control back.

I have done a few skid pan courses and its always been a big help to my road and track driving.

There is a good one near Maidenhead if you are interested.

Cheers

BtK

Dream Weaver

Only if too much power caused the slide - if the wet/weight transfer caused the slide then you have to hit the throttle to pull out of it, thats why RWD are so hard to master compared with FWD/AWD

Leslie

If you hit some diesel like that it is almost impossible to recover froem the spin unless it is only a small patch of oil and the car has not got too far into the spin. Its a frightener alright and those people dropping it should be really severely punished if caught at it. Glad you missed everything.

You can imagine what it is like on a 'bike if you are motoring on a bit!

Les

wrxsmo

Glad to hear you missed those barriers Carl

Paulo P

iTrader: (42)

are you male or female??? If you are female I've seen the car and you quite a fair few times recently and you work in the road parallel to mine. I've seen you driving up the Farnham road quite a few times too

scoobymoo

If I had I think even you and your team would have struggled to put it back to as new condition

scoobymoo

I am afraid I am Male so it must be another P1 that you keep seeing. I occasionally see one round here being driven by a bloke but have yet to see one with a women driving.

FrenchBoy

Where's the skid pan in maidenhead?
Wouldn't mind having a crack at that.