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Old 07 September 2004, 10:32 PM
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Hi All
Hope everyone is well.
Had my scoob for a few months now and still loving it, Want to know what the general views are of which octane booster you guys and gals prefer all comments gratefully received.
Old 07 September 2004, 10:51 PM
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NF is the booster of choice. What model do you have ?
Old 08 September 2004, 07:57 AM
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I use millers when i visit exmoor as there is no sul for many miles, very good IMHO, very smooth power delivery and very responsive
Old 08 September 2004, 08:10 AM
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i use millers too i don,t hav any problems.
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Old 08 September 2004, 08:31 AM
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Another vote for NF
Old 08 September 2004, 10:05 AM
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from most comments of seen on this sort of Topic

Most JDM(Jap) car owners O/B of choice is NF

Most UK car owners O/B of choice is Millers

Jap cars 'Need' Octane booster (unless remapped)
UK Cars don't need it. but use it as added Det protection.

IMHO IIRC

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Old 08 September 2004, 11:43 AM
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T5NYW is talking crap. Jap cars do not NEED ob, it is just preferential to use.
Old 08 September 2004, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by King RA
T5NYW is talking crap. Jap cars do not NEED ob, it is just preferential to use.
Are you missing the smiles from your post ??
Old 08 September 2004, 02:22 PM
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Nitrous Formula Race, greatest stuff in the world

http://www.nfeurope.com/stockists.htm
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Originally Posted by Scooby-Doo
Are you missing the smiles from your post ??
Old 08 September 2004, 04:21 PM
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T5NYW is talking crap. Jap cars do not NEED ob, it is just preferential to use.

Oooooooooops your probably right as long spend most of the day off boost motorway use or unconcerned that a JDM is Tuned to 100ron and your using only 98ron.

but would tend to disagree with your statement, if your drive the car hard, there again it's your motor not mine.

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98.6 actually. OB screws your plugs up if you use it all the time too.

Use it when you know your cars gonna take a pounding, track days e.t.c but for normal every day driving optimax is just fine. A few tuners have told me this, I'm not just making it up.

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Old 08 September 2004, 05:01 PM
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the stuff is ****.. end of story.. for the days u need the good stuff go out and buy the good stuff ie.. racing fuel.. booster WILL F**K UP THE INJECTORS!!!! end of story..
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i use 1 gallon of 150ron race fuel to 8 gallons of optimax which brings your octane to over 106 as i have tried cool blue 106 as a comparison and found that the mixed fuel pulled a lot better across the rev range right up to the redline.
usual off the shelf octane boosters are over priced and over rated crap

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Originally Posted by scoobydoobeypoo
i use 1 gallon of 150ron race fuel to 8 gallons of optimax
Where do you get it from and for how much?
Old 09 September 2004, 07:17 AM
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Booster fvcks up the injectors? How does it do that then?
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injectors get fouled.. the booster eats away at material.. for example say u get 25000 miles out of a set then plan on changing them between 15 and 18 thousand..
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Originally Posted by thor1077
the stuff is ****.. end of story..
1) And this rather sweeping statement is based on what evidence/expertise?

2) I'm sure I've read somewhere that SUL is made by adding a type of OB to ordinary UL? Better stop using that too
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Where's Greasemonkey when you need him?
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Originally Posted by Mark_S
Where's Greasemonkey when you need him?
Quite...
Old 10 September 2004, 08:02 AM
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injectors get fouled.. the booster eats away at material.. for example say u get 25000 miles out of a set then plan on changing them between 15 and 18 thousand
Didn't realise injectors had quite that short a lifespan. I've used booster for probably 50k miles. Never had any problem with injectors. Plugs needed changing more frequently, but that's a small price to pay for the advantages - if you use a decent ob like NF of course.
Old 10 September 2004, 02:13 PM
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Where can I get 150ron race fuel ?
What's a gallon cost?

Cheers
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Originally Posted by scoobydoobeypoo
i use 1 gallon of 150ron race fuel to 8 gallons of optimax which brings your octane to over 106 as i have tried cool blue 106 as a comparison and found that the mixed fuel pulled a lot better across the rev range right up to the redline.
usual off the shelf octane boosters are over priced and over rated crap

cheers
gary
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Originally Posted by Scoobyn
Where can I get 150ron race fuel ?
What's a gallon cost?

Cheers
Shane
I was at Silvertone at TRAX breifing, the chap said the Race Fuel there was about £8.00 a gallon IIRC
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Originally Posted by scoobydoobeypoo
i use 1 gallon of 150ron race fuel to 8 gallons of optimax which brings your octane to over 106 as i have tried cool blue 106 as a comparison and found that the mixed fuel pulled a lot better across the rev range right up to the redline.
usual off the shelf octane boosters are over priced and over rated crap

cheers
gary

eeemmm im sorry when I use it I get no det, with out I get det is the knocklink talking **** as well

I totaly agree with t5nyw - think its the same as those guys who say a oil change every 5 k is over kill, emm I don'k know **** from pudding but you do what you will with your own motor Im sticking with the over rated crap
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From my own personal experience my car (02STI UK PPP) runs more smoothly and pulls more cleanly with octane booster (either type) than when run on SUL alone. I normally use less than the suggested amounts and this still seems to work. So far I have done 32,000 miles with no injector problems that I am aware of, 90% of those miles were with some sort of octane improver
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If you have a Jap car it is intended to run on 100 RON unless the ECU has been altered. You may not be able to hear det. and a Knock Link is a worthwhile, cost effective piece of kit that I would prefer to have fitted on any Jap car at an early stage and certainly before running full boost.
Anybody who says it is OK to run an unaltered Jap car without O. B. or other precautions is giving very bad advice and probably has little or no direct experience.
I was unaware that O.B. caused problems with injectors and would like to see such a claim substantiated.
Regardless of these spurious claims and from my own direct trials, observations and experience, I will continue to use N.F. which I now purchase from Roger Clark Motorsport.
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Originally Posted by King RA
T5NYW is talking crap. Jap cars do not NEED ob, it is just preferential to use.
I'm with Harvey

Originally Posted by King RA
98.6 actually.
Use it when you know your cars gonna take a pounding, track days e.t.c but for normal every day driving optimax is just fine. A few tuners have told me this, I'm not just making it up.
All depends on the loose term "A Pounding" driving a JDM's tuned to 100ron, running with at best 98.6, even worse with a bad batch, high charge Temp's and at high speed run is ten times worse than a "Trackday" IMHO

I know a few peeps that had tune cars(to 98Ron) with knocklink fitted and have had 'bad' batches of fuel and show Det's.

If your running a JDM Knocklink is not Preferencial it's Essential IMHO


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Got an sti 4, just had a knock link fitted. Guess what, it's showing det from around 5.5k, rising at the rate of one light per 1000rpm. Will NF reduce/stop detonation, or will I just have to bite the bullet and go for an apexi fc. Had the car 11months now and no running probs at all. Always use optimax.
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I assume the K/L is showing green lights? This is probably background noise. If the K.L. is giving reds you have a problem if it is working properly, it is only a matter of time before you suffer engine failure.
Regardsless of what you are seeing, try 1ml/l of NF and see if it is quieter. Go up to 2mls/l and test the effects.
There are obvious gains to be had from a properly mapped after market ECU, particularly on a modified vehicle or a Jap spec car.
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That's correct Harvey, mostly green lights. At around 7k in 2nd and 3rd gear, amber lights start to appear with red flashing just before the red line. Is it possible that the guy who fitted my knock link, set it up to sensitive? I had it rolling roaded at PE when I first got it last December. Needed a new lamda and that was it. They said it was running ok.


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