Is it worth waiting for an 05 Sti? DCCD?
03 September 2004, 01:28 PM
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Is it worth waiting for an 05 Sti? DCCD?
I've been out in both an 05 JDM Sti and an 03 UK Sti - huge differences, but I'm not sure it's worth the £7,000+ price difference (plus the abuse from the wife) - I didn't get the chance to try out the DCCD so I would appreciate your thoughts on it!
03 September 2004, 02:41 PM
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I went for the '05 JDM car - after all, how are you going to learn how to use DCCD-A if you don't have it?
Your best bet might be the '05 UK car, which gets DCCD-A as an option plus the interior and suspension changes. The JDM car, meanwhile, is still the only one to have the twin scroll turbo (coupled with other significant engine, inlet and exhaust changes), plus HID lights, quick steering rack, rear wiper and electric folding mirrors.
It's the engine changes that sold me the car - though given what I know now about the improvements that are coming to the UK STI for '05 it would be a much less easy decision to make. I never expected all the interior and suspension mods to make it to the UK car.
Your best bet might be the '05 UK car, which gets DCCD-A as an option plus the interior and suspension changes. The JDM car, meanwhile, is still the only one to have the twin scroll turbo (coupled with other significant engine, inlet and exhaust changes), plus HID lights, quick steering rack, rear wiper and electric folding mirrors.
It's the engine changes that sold me the car - though given what I know now about the improvements that are coming to the UK STI for '05 it would be a much less easy decision to make. I never expected all the interior and suspension mods to make it to the UK car.
03 September 2004, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
I went for the '05 JDM car - after all, how are you going to learn how to use DCCD-A if you don't have it?
Your best bet might be the '05 UK car, which gets DCCD-A as an option plus the interior and suspension changes. The JDM car, meanwhile, is still the only one to have the twin scroll turbo (coupled with other significant engine, inlet and exhaust changes), plus HID lights, quick steering rack, rear wiper and electric folding mirrors.
It's the engine changes that sold me the car - though given what I know now about the improvements that are coming to the UK STI for '05 it would be a much less easy decision to make. I never expected all the interior and suspension mods to make it to the UK car.
Your best bet might be the '05 UK car, which gets DCCD-A as an option plus the interior and suspension changes. The JDM car, meanwhile, is still the only one to have the twin scroll turbo (coupled with other significant engine, inlet and exhaust changes), plus HID lights, quick steering rack, rear wiper and electric folding mirrors.
It's the engine changes that sold me the car - though given what I know now about the improvements that are coming to the UK STI for '05 it would be a much less easy decision to make. I never expected all the interior and suspension mods to make it to the UK car.
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
I went for the '05 JDM car - after all, how are you going to learn how to use DCCD-A if you don't have it?
Your best bet might be the '05 UK car, which gets DCCD-A as an option plus the interior and suspension changes. The JDM car, meanwhile, is still the only one to have the twin scroll turbo (coupled with other significant engine, inlet and exhaust changes), plus HID lights, quick steering rack, rear wiper and electric folding mirrors.
It's the engine changes that sold me the car - though given what I know now about the improvements that are coming to the UK STI for '05 it would be a much less easy decision to make. I never expected all the interior and suspension mods to make it to the UK car.
Your best bet might be the '05 UK car, which gets DCCD-A as an option plus the interior and suspension changes. The JDM car, meanwhile, is still the only one to have the twin scroll turbo (coupled with other significant engine, inlet and exhaust changes), plus HID lights, quick steering rack, rear wiper and electric folding mirrors.
It's the engine changes that sold me the car - though given what I know now about the improvements that are coming to the UK STI for '05 it would be a much less easy decision to make. I never expected all the interior and suspension mods to make it to the UK car.
Just thought you guys might be interested....!
03 September 2004, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMark
I think it's 13:1 for the JDM - but don't know for the UK ....
Cheers Andy C!
Cheers Andy C!
i expressed interest having driven STi6 with STi quick rack, however Mike Wood Prodrive said it would make the car too nervous - can you compare and comment - STi Uk / JDM q rack
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UK is 15:1.
I'd definitely be interested in what's included within that £20k price tag, you know what they say about something that sounds too good to be true. Alarm/tracker? Underseal? Warranty?
Even so, it does make my new motor look expensive - assuming that quote is accurate, of course. I console myself that my car will be no less fun (actually no, correct that: no less spectacular) regardless of whatever else is available out there. Besides, my car is in the country right now and I should be driving it in a week or two.
I'd definitely be interested in what's included within that £20k price tag, you know what they say about something that sounds too good to be true. Alarm/tracker? Underseal? Warranty?
Even so, it does make my new motor look expensive - assuming that quote is accurate, of course. I console myself that my car will be no less fun (actually no, correct that: no less spectacular) regardless of whatever else is available out there. Besides, my car is in the country right now and I should be driving it in a week or two.
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The WR1 has the quick rack - I can't see anyone from Prodrive saying bad things about that car somehow
Certainly no WR1 owners I've spoken to have a bad word to say about it...
Certainly no WR1 owners I've spoken to have a bad word to say about it...
03 September 2004, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
The WR1 has the quick rack - I can't see anyone from Prodrive saying bad things about that car somehow
Certainly no WR1 owners I've spoken to have a bad word to say about it...
Certainly no WR1 owners I've spoken to have a bad word to say about it...
06 September 2004, 01:43 PM
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i think u could be right - 14:1 UK
i expressed interest having driven STi6 with STi quick rack, however Mike Wood Prodrive said it would make the car too nervous - can you compare and comment - STi Uk / JDM q rack
i expressed interest having driven STi6 with STi quick rack, however Mike Wood Prodrive said it would make the car too nervous - can you compare and comment - STi Uk / JDM q rack
Still like the car though.
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Originally Posted by MikeWood
Andy
WR1 doesn't have a 13.1 rack..........
Mike
WR1 doesn't have a 13.1 rack..........
Mike
How are you getting on evaluating the 05?
Any more extractable torque or broader band for PPP05?
Is the suspension any more driver friendly in terms of choppy ride and understeer
Last but, as they say, but no means least - Whilst it may not be particularly to I.M's favour, I would have thought that it is to Prodrives favour to sanction pan European PPP support / warranty - I understand that an STi bought on mainland, Cyprus or whatever within EU looses its warranty if approved PPP is fitted in UK - this, if true will broaden the divide between future customer and I.M.'s Dealers as it is more economic to get, say a TSL 333 coversion, and loose Prodrive useful revenue to boot..
Unfortunately there is a huge gulf between UK Dealer prices and UK Warehouses - STi is currently £18.8k through the latter - whilst this remains, an increasingly higher percentage of customers will take the decision to buy through unapproved suppliers.
I am sure a vast percentage of customers would buy throught the Dealer if only prices could be better aligned - via inter European currency trading or whatever it takes to be a level playing field!!
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thanks
David
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