Cold Turkey

Anyone got the new Road Angel mounted in their new age scooby ?

I ask because I want one fitted in my WR1 and the dealer was going to install an old model. I want the new one (who wouldn't?) but he says they have trouble with the laser detector picking up signals because of the higher air intake bump on new age scoobies ? He then admits they don't actually have any new model Road Angels

Anyone had problems with dash mounted road angels or laser detectors ?

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Pro Boy

Sounds like trying to get rid of old ones and thats an excuse new type works well if notbetter than the old style on my WR1

Cold Turkey

Yeah thats what I thought ! Although I think he was only saying the Laser Detector part (not in the old Road Angel ?) didn't work properly

FrenchBoy

The laser detector is a waste of time anyway, i wouldnt even bother with it.

If, in the unlikely event that the infernal thing actually goes off, it just means that you've been caught.

STI4ME

Can see how this could be an issue, but if you look at the user guide for the new model (available off Blackspot website) you'll see that the chances of the laser detection system picking up a signal when the number plate is targetted (likely) is slim anyway. Firstly if you want to have a good chance of detecting laser you need to shell out a bit extra for the additional sensor anyway, and mount it next to the plate. Secondly, once you've detected laser you'll have been done anyway if you're over the 10%+2mph.

I have the new Roadangel and it's excellent. Much bigger clearer screen than before, more transferable if you want to retain laser detection as it's an all-in-one, plus has useful features like a compass direction indicator. If you want all the bells and whistles get an Origin B2 for a few extra quid, but if you want neat, simple and effective get the new Roadangel.

Hope that helps!

sKunk

I'd rather have an Ipaq with Tomtom and a Bel 550.

Neil Smalley

Theres a group buy for new road angels in the group buy forum. £300 Plus P&P

BuRR

does the new RA have serial out?

scooby L

I've got my snooper mounted by the A piller (to the right of the dash) and that works fine.

LiamWR1

I've got the new road angel in my WR1 at the moment, the only problems I have are that at speed & on a bumpy surface the unit falls off it's magnetic base mount (it comes witha magnetic base on a window suction cup holder & a magnetic stick on disk for dash mounting), which when your driving along becomes dangerously distracting!

I keep meaning to try the dash mount holder to see if that's any better but I imagine it will be the same, probably due to the harder than normal ride on the WR1.

The other thing is that it doesn't tell you the difference between camera types, you just get a "fixed camera" warning, whereas on the g/f's WRX her Snooper S4R verbally tell's her the camera type, speed limit and distance in metres to the camera, and again the road angel just shows a bar style count down etc.

If I could turn back time I would of gone for another Snooper S4R rather than the new road angel.

Hope this helps......

Cheers,

Liam.

Cold Turkey

I'd heard laser detectors weren't that great but wanted the new one....because its newer ! I also believe (can anyone confirm ?) that I can take a GPS feed from the new Road Angel and use it with my PDA/Tom Tom Sat Nav solution ? Currently got a seperate GPS sensor but it'd be neater if I could just use the Road Angel.....

Valkeerie

Yep ... I have an Ipaq 4150, Tomtom Navigator, an Akron powered PDA mount for it that clips to the airvent, and a Navman 4X00 bluetooth GPS. The free UK camera database is at

http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/uksafetycameras.php

It is more of a faff than an all-in-one system, but I had the Ipaq anyway, and I use the system with 1:50000 OS maps for hiking, motorcycling etc, so it is a lot more useful than a dedicated system.

Works too ... I get 20 and 10 second warnings of cameras relative to current speed, which is plenty of time to take a look around. And when not telling me about cameras, TT navigator is an excellent satnav system.

wrxmania

SLOW DOWN CHEEKY BOY!!!!!

STI4ME

Sounds like you're using the window mount!? If so which way do you have the rubber bungs fitted to it? They need to point down to the unit not up to the glass like I've seen on a couple of examples. I've had problems like you describe when using the dash mount but the most have had with the window mount is a partial demount where it still stayed in the holder but came off the pad. I now use the dash mount day to day, and the window mount if I'm going for a play.

harrymonk

Got a r/angel & 02pppsti, i can say from 6 points the laser detector does not work.

sillysi

I though the goverment were soon to ban devices which have the ability to "detect" speed measuring devices such as Gatsos and laser guns?

This would mean the new Road Angel with the built in laser has a very short life. The old ones would be OK as the GPS system does not "detect" the Gatsos, the seperate laser add-on does and this could be left off.

Cold Turkey

Thats a damn good point ! But I want the GPS output and I can always block the laser detector.....or prove to them it doesn't work !

STI4ME

I believe Blackspot are expected to be able to deactivate the laser detection with an online firmware update if it comes to it. Whether this would be optional or not I don't know. It's all just speculation anyway though. Many police forces have sided with these types of devices as they can be used to increase general awareness. Problem is that some drivers may choose to use them so that they can drive faster AND avoid getting caught. Like contraception though, it'll never be 100% effective so abstinence is the best policy (backed up by a gps unit in case you 'accidently' fail to abstain! )

Ajax

Anybody seen any upgrade deals or discounted lifetime subscriptions?

Ajax

Brother_Will

Road angels main benefit used to be the longer initial subscription rate and the lifetime option this is no longer available on the new one. The new Road Angel does not offer a competative rate against a snooper model. Although its not slowing sales, sales against old one have been just as good.

arb

I,ve used the new road angel in my new age and it was fine but for my area (Cleveland) it turned out to be useless against an Escort van with a black box in front which turned out to be radar so I promptly swapped it for a Bel 550 .

This is an out and out detector which can false alarm but it detected the mobile radar in ample time to check my speed.
The road angel is only as good as the database and it missed a moveable gatso (A66 Darlington) I new where it was so I was OK but relying on the road angel worried me.
ARB

OBH6UK

Just what you want here:

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