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Old 14 August 2004, 12:28 PM
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I have posted a couple of threads about a STI8 which I am proposing to buy. How would a WRX with PPP compare to an STI ???? Any noticable difference or roughly the same ?

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Old 14 August 2004, 04:22 PM
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The similarities end with the power figures. The STi is a much more focused drivers car. The many STi revisions include much engine work such as sodium lifters and hollow valves with active valve timing IIRC. The 6 speed 'box and better diffs, greatly improve Brembo brakes, quicker steering rack and better suspension. Add the cosmetic enhancements and they are just a league (or 2) above. Go drive them both, and then sample an STi with PPP and you'll feel the difference.
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The sti8 with PPP is fierce
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"EVO" magazine rates the WRX with PPP the better option
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The best thing to do is to go out and test drive both cars.
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Originally Posted by clan
"EVO" magazine rates the WRX with PPP the better option
only on a value for money basis.
Old 16 August 2004, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sKunk
The sti8 with PPP is fierce
I've only had mine a week and I haven't stopped smiling!
Old 16 August 2004, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TDT
I've only had mine a week and I haven't stopped smiling!
I've only test driven mine, I get it this week.

LONGEST.WEEK.EVAR!!!1

Old 16 August 2004, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sKunk
I've only test driven mine, I get it this week.

LONGEST.WEEK.EVAR!!!1

Showells must have been sick of me - "just happened to drive past on the way home from work, but while I'm here I'll nip out in it for an hour or so"

And the sales bloke took me & the missus out on the p1ss. Can't be bad!
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LOL!

I sold my MY97 on Friday and the couple who bought it took me out for a meal lmao
Old 16 August 2004, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DanR STI8
I have posted a couple of threads about a STI8 which I am proposing to buy. How would a WRX with PPP compare to an STI ???? Any noticable difference or roughly the same ?

Thanks!
Dan own a 03 STi and a WRX. I don't care about all this bull that people come on here saying that the WRX PPP is faster than an STi. Yeah maybe a standard one in a straight line but there is no way a WRX PPP would keep up with a Standard STi round a track or on a nice B road. Stick PPP (Or Decat, EcuTek etc) on a STi and your laughing.

WRX easier car to live with day to day but in terms of performance not a touch on the STi.
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Originally Posted by Gubbins
only on a value for money basis.
You can't argue with a five star "EVO" rating (for the WRX PPP) , this isn't based on a value for money basis its an overall package. Just look at some of the cars that don't get five stars.
Old 17 August 2004, 11:33 PM
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what is all this crap about the wrx is better at living on a day to day basis?
Go and buy a poxy ford focus then!
The sti is a car for drivers with big smiles
Had my sti ppp for 9 months and still look for every excuse possible just to go for a spin
considered the options wheni bought mine and the sti ppp has turned out to be the best descision ive ever made

There, case closed................
Old 17 August 2004, 11:41 PM
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I have a WRX and I've got to agree the STI is better but the WRX is a fair bit cheaper and easy to tune to good power too.

Prodrive springs, whiteline chassis stuff, good pads/hoses/fluid etc and yer away.

STI is better drivers car but the WRX (with or without PPP) is still a hell of a good car (and has no gold wheels )

Brian
Old 18 August 2004, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by clan
You can't argue with a five star "EVO" rating (for the WRX PPP) , this isn't based on a value for money basis its an overall package. Just look at some of the cars that don't get five stars.
yes you can argue with the rating - it depends what you want from your car. "Rounded package" - which means compromises in some areas, which are fine for some, or a more hardcore STI. You pays yer money.

And if you read EVO every month, like I and many others do on here, you'll see how inconsistent they are. Not too surprising, when it's different people reviewing the cars and they don't usually agree.
Old 18 August 2004, 01:10 PM
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When considering purchasing my STi, I looked at a WRX PPP and found the insurance on the latter much more expensive.

Plus the interiors a lot better on an STi.
Old 18 August 2004, 01:20 PM
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it was the interior that really sold the sti to me rather then the WRX, didnt really mind about the performance cos im not a good enough driver to tell the difference. Although it is a plus
Old 18 August 2004, 01:49 PM
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"Rounded package" - which means compromises in some areas, which are fine for some, or a more hardcore STI
... which, of course, means compromises in different areas. As you say, you pays yer money...
Old 18 August 2004, 01:54 PM
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ive heard some people say that the Sti is a little to much for everyday use. I personally think its fine, a little stiff and a little bouncy on really cr*p roads but if you are prepared to live with the poor fuel economy and can keep the needle below 3,000 rpm then she's fine. Obviously shes not ideal but you cant have everything. My old mans TVR was a pig to drive slowly through towns, the clutch was too heavy etc
Old 18 August 2004, 01:58 PM
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Hmmm I've got a standard 53 plate WRX and got to drive an ugly-eye STI. The STI is probably a lot quicker with a good driver - but the handling scared me. Maybe I like a bit of understeer when pushing hard??
Agree the interior is miles better - as is the 6 speed box.
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Originally Posted by steppers
what is all this crap about the wrx is better at living on a day to day basis?
Go and buy a poxy ford focus then!
No if you read what I said, the WRX is a easier car to live with day to day. Not that I give a **** as I use my STi every day, but when I drive the WRX it is a more relaxed drive even though you can cover ground nearly as quick.
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
... which, of course, means compromises in different areas. As you say, you pays yer money...
...which is what more hardcore means.
Old 18 August 2004, 04:54 PM
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I bought a WRX MY04 with PPP.

With the PPP and Prodrive spoiler it comes out at about the same cost as a new Sti - so cost as such was not really the option.

However, with a new baby the Sti was to hardcore for around my way to be using to cart him here, there and everywhere. Plus the wife drives slowly, and most of the time I drive with baby in the back. Therefore, the times I do get to drive on my own (a few times a week) are used to push the WRX a bit - perhaps not quite as fun as the sti - but fun enough.

For me it met my specification, the Sti did not. (for a few years anyway!)
Old 18 August 2004, 06:04 PM
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How did it cost nearly as much as an STI - is it an SL wagon?

STI - £24,995

WRX - £20,295 (roughly) + £1600 PPP + £600 Spoiler fitting and painting = approx £22,500 or so.

£2500 is still a lot of money.

I have the Prodrive spoiler on my car which I bought at a good price from a Subaru Importer (£400) and I know that buying the spoiler, fitting and spraying it, colour coding my sideskirts (mine is a 2003) and buying a brake light for it (as it did not have one - £35 approx) was around about £540 or so.

I also got about £1500 off my car as it was a low mileage demo, but did have Pentagon tints, mats, first service done, road tax etc etc plus a few other bits and bobs and I got a good trade in on my old car. If I had added PPP for say £1500 at time of purchase then my car would have cost me £20,600 or so on the road. That is why I did not buy an STI - the best they could do was £24,500 on it - an extra £4000.

Next time I will push the boat out and buy an STI.

Agree the WRX is good day to day and I am very happy with it after all the other stuff I have done to it.

The point is made above though that an STI is cheaper to insure in most cases than a WRX PPP - one of the reasons I have not got it fitted.

All the best Markus

Brian

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Old 18 August 2004, 06:44 PM
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got rather a good deal going on here folks

http://www.scoobycity.co.uk/phpBB2/v...=117266#117266
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my angle on this is that i needed a car that i could fit mountain bikes and stuff in so a WRX 5 door with PPP on was my choice

practical and fast
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Yes,

NEVER underestimate the new WRX

Brian
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OK OK . ... Brian, I can not add up ...
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