WR1 ? 22B ? Jap Import STi ?
19 July 2004, 07:07 PM
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WR1 ? 22B ? Jap Import STi ?
Ive been thinking of swapping the P1 for a new shape, maybe a WR1.....
I was very tempted to buy a 22B but i have been told that unless i have the cash laying around to pay for engine rebuilds and so on then not to bother....
Hence why im thinking of the new shape as the warranty will ease those worries as this is going to be an everyday car........
Now the WR1 is a lovely looking motor but a few people in the know have suggested the new 2005 spec twin scroll Jap import Sti.
Does anyone currently have one of these ??? Are they better than the WR1 ?
And before anyone comments on the warranty of an import, i know most dealerships wont touch them but i have been in touch with David Hendry Cars and they offer full 3yr warranty, same as u would get with UK spec..
I was very tempted to buy a 22B but i have been told that unless i have the cash laying around to pay for engine rebuilds and so on then not to bother....
Hence why im thinking of the new shape as the warranty will ease those worries as this is going to be an everyday car........
Now the WR1 is a lovely looking motor but a few people in the know have suggested the new 2005 spec twin scroll Jap import Sti.
Does anyone currently have one of these ??? Are they better than the WR1 ?
And before anyone comments on the warranty of an import, i know most dealerships wont touch them but i have been in touch with David Hendry Cars and they offer full 3yr warranty, same as u would get with UK spec..
19 July 2004, 07:11 PM
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What I understand nobody has got the new 2005 Spec STI. The first will be delivered in September this year. But it could be different with the grey import.
19 July 2004, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by julian N/W wrx my93
go for the T25!!!!!!!!
But when I buy a car half the fun is to upgrade it later. So I would rather go for a JDM 2005 STI than the T25.
I ordered the 2005 STI for a month ago
19 July 2004, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyp1
dont like that spoiler they stick on it and you are driving a kit car in effect....
suppose i would have to drive one to see really
suppose i would have to drive one to see really
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19 July 2004, 07:39 PM
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Dont suppose you fancy telling me what you are paying for the car Swede ?
Private message me if u want....
Its just so i can compare ?
Where did you order it from ?
Private message me if u want....
Its just so i can compare ?
Where did you order it from ?
19 July 2004, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyp1
Dont suppose you fancy telling me what you are paying for the car Swede ?
Private message me if u want....
Its just so i can compare ?
Where did you order it from ?
Private message me if u want....
Its just so i can compare ?
Where did you order it from ?
27071 £ was the result.
I Bought it in Sweden. It´s not possible to register a JDM STI in Sweden so i had to buy the one that comes in September. That means DCCD but not all the advantages that the JDM STI has :-( But there will be time to upgrade after I recieve the car.
19 July 2004, 07:45 PM
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The first '05 JDM STIs arrive in this country in a week or so. On paper it's certainly a better car than the WR1 - it has over 300bhp as standard (and more if you change the exhaust and remap it) including the fabulous twin-scroll turbo which gives much better low down response and flexibility. You get DCCD-A and the quick steering rack, of course, but also:
- longer wheelbase and Spec C front geometry
- larger intercooler
- revised inlet system and low back pressure exhaust
- G sensor included in DCCD-A system
- new helical front diff
You also get the usual Japanese toys - electric folding mirrors, rear wash/wipe, 5-stage illuminated dash (new design), plus the new interior inc. climate control.
I drove an '04 JDM STI and loved it - in fact I ordered my '05 car two days later. Only complaint is the crashy ride, easily sorted with some new springs which I'm having fitted before registration.
- longer wheelbase and Spec C front geometry
- larger intercooler
- revised inlet system and low back pressure exhaust
- G sensor included in DCCD-A system
- new helical front diff
You also get the usual Japanese toys - electric folding mirrors, rear wash/wipe, 5-stage illuminated dash (new design), plus the new interior inc. climate control.
I drove an '04 JDM STI and loved it - in fact I ordered my '05 car two days later. Only complaint is the crashy ride, easily sorted with some new springs which I'm having fitted before registration.
19 July 2004, 07:49 PM
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22b
You are probably doing the right thing going for the new scooby, peace of mind and all. I have a uk 22b with 40k on the clock and never had to do a thing to it, can't understand why you think you need a load of cash to run it.
The only thing i can say about the new scooby is, if you are a hard and fast driver(the way a scooby should be driven) you get no feed back from it . I think they have gone too soft in the handling dep.
The only thing i can say about the new scooby is, if you are a hard and fast driver(the way a scooby should be driven) you get no feed back from it . I think they have gone too soft in the handling dep.
19 July 2004, 07:51 PM
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I think they have gone too soft in the handling dep
19 July 2004, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
...hence the G sensor, helical front diff, Spec C geometry, longer wheelbase and quick steering rack in the '05 JDM car!
19 July 2004, 07:54 PM
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Have you had the 22B from new ?
Finding one which hasnt been scummed and beat is the hardest part.....
I will be honest and say that the 22B is the one i wanted but i cant afford to be replacing engines
Finding one which hasnt been scummed and beat is the hardest part.....
I will be honest and say that the 22B is the one i wanted but i cant afford to be replacing engines
19 July 2004, 08:00 PM
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My Japanese isn't that great, so I'm not sure exactly how the G sensor is used. I believe it feeds into the DCCD-A system and therefore affects torque distribution front to rear, rather than between the rear wheels as in the Evo.
The Evo write up gave it 5 stars and described the car as 'the most awesome Impreza yet'.
The Evo write up gave it 5 stars and described the car as 'the most awesome Impreza yet'.
19 July 2004, 08:01 PM
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2005 Japanese 320bhp Model.
Other Japanese Spec Changes Include twin scroll turbo, swichable electomagnetic centre diff, quick rack Steering, HID Lamps, special bridgestone tyres. Climate AC, Brembo Brakes, 3 Year Warranty, Cat 1 Alarm, RAC Trackstar £27,995.
Sounding like a much better deal by the day
Other Japanese Spec Changes Include twin scroll turbo, swichable electomagnetic centre diff, quick rack Steering, HID Lamps, special bridgestone tyres. Climate AC, Brembo Brakes, 3 Year Warranty, Cat 1 Alarm, RAC Trackstar £27,995.
Sounding like a much better deal by the day
19 July 2004, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyp1
So has anyone read the EVO feature this month ?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture..._pic_15538.jpg
19 July 2004, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyp1
2005 Japanese 320bhp Model.
Other Japanese Spec Changes Include twin scroll turbo, swichable electomagnetic centre diff, quick rack Steering, HID Lamps, special bridgestone tyres. Climate AC, Brembo Brakes, 3 Year Warranty, Cat 1 Alarm, RAC Trackstar £27,995.
Sounding like a much better deal by the day
Other Japanese Spec Changes Include twin scroll turbo, swichable electomagnetic centre diff, quick rack Steering, HID Lamps, special bridgestone tyres. Climate AC, Brembo Brakes, 3 Year Warranty, Cat 1 Alarm, RAC Trackstar £27,995.
Sounding like a much better deal by the day
The price I said is the dealers price in Sweden, i got a much better price because I know the Subaru dealer :-D
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Originally Posted by scoobyp1
2005 Japanese 320bhp Model.
Other Japanese Spec Changes Include twin scroll turbo, swichable electomagnetic centre diff, quick rack Steering, HID Lamps, special bridgestone tyres. Climate AC, Brembo Brakes, 3 Year Warranty, Cat 1 Alarm, RAC Trackstar £27,995.
Sounding like a much better deal by the day
Other Japanese Spec Changes Include twin scroll turbo, swichable electomagnetic centre diff, quick rack Steering, HID Lamps, special bridgestone tyres. Climate AC, Brembo Brakes, 3 Year Warranty, Cat 1 Alarm, RAC Trackstar £27,995.
Sounding like a much better deal by the day
19 July 2004, 08:16 PM
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22b engine is no more fragile than any other impreza engine.
just make sure you feed it the right fuel (optimax) and octane booster.
Murdo, as a 22B owner, how comes you aren't on bbs.22b.com?
just make sure you feed it the right fuel (optimax) and octane booster.
Murdo, as a 22B owner, how comes you aren't on bbs.22b.com?
19 July 2004, 08:20 PM
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murdo: I'm not upset (just maybe a bit quick to post after a few glasses of a rather good Chilean Merlot! Please forgive me... 
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All I was trying to point out was that Subaru have taken your quite reasonable - and not uncommon - criticism on board and have tried to fix it. I for one am not complaining about that
).All I was trying to point out was that Subaru have taken your quite reasonable - and not uncommon - criticism on board and have tried to fix it. I for one am not complaining about that
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Originally Posted by murdo
what's bbs.22b.com??????? just new to all this. I'm usually out humping my 22B.
I too am looking for a 22b to replace the P1 that I have now. I have found a few I'm interested, coincidently they are both at a friends garage
. They are £26 and £27k, both low mileage. For that money, if the engine did go, then I'd still have a few grand that id have saved from a brand new top spec Impreza to play with.And to be honest if the engine did go, I'd probably not have the 2.2 to replace it, more likely a 2.5 or even just a 2 litre! As it would be a car id be keeping for a long time, I'm not bothered what engine is in there as long as it's reliable and as quick as the original.
