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Old 23 June 2004, 05:17 PM
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WR1 in this weeks Auto Express's Top 25 performance cars of 2004

Came number 10

the EVO came 13'th
Old 23 June 2004, 05:18 PM
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And thats right too.

I raced the EVO at the pod ... beat it with a considerable margin
Old 23 June 2004, 05:19 PM
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Yeah, but who reads (or believes) Auto Express???
Old 23 June 2004, 05:26 PM
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I do now
Old 23 June 2004, 05:27 PM
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Depends if you read or belive EVO Harry boy.......

Do you watch and belive Top Gear?
Old 23 June 2004, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasoon
Depends if you read or belive EVO Harry boy.......

Do you watch and belive Top Gear?
Well, I subscribe to Evo, Car and AutoCar. If I was given Auto Express, I might read it in the loo....

And as for TG, I watch it accompanied by a large pinch of salt. But not as big a pinch as that for Auto Express...

Does that make sense??
Old 23 June 2004, 05:35 PM
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top gear are only good at destroying cars ... they also like blowing up clutches, head gaskets and ruining E Type Jaguars!!!
Old 23 June 2004, 06:01 PM
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What was the full list?
Old 23 June 2004, 06:13 PM
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1 Nissan 350Z
2 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
3 Mini Cooper S Works
4 Ariel Atom 160
5 Noble M400
6 BMW 330Cd
7 Mazda RX-8
8 Ferrari 360 CS
9 Lotus Exige
10 WR1
11 Caterham R500 EVO
12 BMW M3 CSL
13 EVO FQ- 330
14 Civic Type R
15 Skoda Fabia vRS
16 BMW Z4 3.0
17 Renaultsport Clio 182
18 TVR T350T
19 MG ZT 260
20 Smart Roadster Brabus
21 Vauxhall Monaro
22 Audi S4 Cabriolet
23 Renaultsport Megane RS
24 Jaguar XK8
25 Chrysler Crossfire
Old 23 June 2004, 06:51 PM
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Nic elist, but it is just about every credible "performance" car that was produced last year, so no big deal its on the "top 25" list, but tenth aint bad


Nice to see the 350z on top, v nice motors.
Old 23 June 2004, 06:53 PM
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i like the look of the 350z in press photos.....

didnt like it when i seen one in the metal
Old 23 June 2004, 08:52 PM
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hmm not another EVO v Scoob thread on the horizon....iv tried and owned them both and currently have a EVO FQ330 running around 360/325,hmmm i think i know which one id rather have,in fact the only car i could think that is within most peoples reach that could touch a evo is a car that most of us could never afford ferrari,911GT3,etc etc,i mean the nissan,mini and mazda ahead of both the evo and WR1 what planet is that magazine on!!!
Old 23 June 2004, 08:55 PM
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I was quite impressed with the 350zx in the metal (altho didnt like the orange leather, and you have to pay extra for it lol, ill take the black thanks) and actually preferred it much more to the RX8.

I know they are diff cars, on a 4 seater other a 2 but they always seem to be pitted against each other.
Old 23 June 2004, 08:55 PM
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youve got to laugh a 350z 1st as a performance car LOL
Old 23 June 2004, 09:06 PM
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Yes I don't think they are talking about T25 listed in order of 0-60 performance!

It is possible, odd though it may seem to some on here, that others look for other qualities in a car when making an overall assessment.
Old 23 June 2004, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WR1 Wannabe
Yes I don't think they are talking about T25 listed in order of 0-60 performance!

It is possible, odd though it may seem to some on here, that others look for other qualities in a car when making an overall assessment.
so what quality would a 350z have over a 911gt3 apart from price?

you've really got to take it with a huge pinch of salt
Old 24 June 2004, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye
so what quality would a 350z have over a 911gt3 apart from price?

you've really got to take it with a huge pinch of salt
Errr... price?
Old 24 June 2004, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye
so what quality would a 350z have over a 911gt3 apart from price?
Hmm, well I didn't write the report.

But affordability is obviously a major factor, as is performance. Perhaps they also consider availability, accessability, practicality, desirability, residuals, comfort levels, etc. The 350Z would score higher than a GT3 in some of those categories and, obviously, lower in others.

Originally Posted by hawkeye
you've really got to take it with a huge pinch of salt
I don't know about a pinch of salt, but you do have to take the perspective of the writer into account. If his idea of what makes a good sports car is different to yours then obviously you will disagree with his conclusions. Doesn't make him wrong in any sense though.
Old 24 June 2004, 07:38 AM
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24 Jaguar XK8

So that, in their opinion, is the 24th Best new performance car of 2004.......

Yeah
Old 24 June 2004, 08:23 AM
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Doesn't really matter what some mag thinks. Whats important is what you "require" from your car. I personally would put the WR1 in first place but I am biased to say the least as it satisfies my requirements and puts a huge grin on my face. Acceleration, handling, looks and value for money does it for me. Yes there are some out there who would Kev a car up to do other wonderous things and I respect them for that but that just isn't me. My other half has a Cooper S Works and rightly adores it for a different role and reasons than a Scoobie. Having said that if she had to select one car it would be the WR1 as we are both nuts about Scoobies.

The point I'm making in a long way is that these lists are guides and obviously have someone elses opinion at the base of them. Does it really matter so long as you have a smile on your face? I DO!!

Happy drivin'!
Old 24 June 2004, 08:26 AM
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Wish I could do a Poll:

Do WR1 owners have fragile ego's?

a) Yes
b) Yes
c) Yes

Please vote.
Old 24 June 2004, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Wish I could do a Poll:

Do WR1 owners have fragile ego's?

a) Yes
b) Yes
c) Yes

Please vote.
Hang on.............
























Just trying to find mine................















Nope must have lost it somewhere :P
Old 24 June 2004, 09:56 AM
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Poll:

Are non-WR1 owners obsessed with sniping at those that do?

a) Yes
b) Obviously
c) Stupid question, of course they are



PS. Did 22B/P1 owners get this much flak when those cars came out?
Old 24 June 2004, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WR1 Wannabe
PS. Did 22B/P1 owners get this much flak when those cars came out?
Nope.

The 22b and P1 were huge improvements over the standard car.
Old 24 June 2004, 10:05 AM
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10th is pants
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Wish I could do a Poll:

Do WR1 owners have fragile ego's?

a) Yes
b) Yes
c) Yes

Please vote.
Are you bitter and twisted?
Old 24 June 2004, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigH
24 Jaguar XK8

So that, in their opinion, is the 24th Best new performance car of 2004.......

Yeah
Closely followed by the squatting CrossFire...who are they trying to kid
Old 24 June 2004, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Nope.

The 22b and P1 were huge improvements over the standard car.
Was the point I made so so hard to grasp? Would you like me to spell it out in simpler terms. Maybe I should insert some picutures and diagrams to aid your ability to follow a basic idea.
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Nope.

The 22b and P1 were huge improvements over the standard car.

What exactly is the huge improvement that the P1 had over the standard car?

Shaun
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Please feel free to insert some pictures...................


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