1,440 second hand jap cars sunk
24 May 2004, 05:53 PM
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1,440 second hand jap cars sunk
The Hyundai 105 bound from Japan to the UK, has sunk, taking with it 1,440 used Jap cars that were comming this way.
The ship was due into Southampton June 16.
The ship was due into Southampton June 16.
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24 May 2004, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jpmason33
it does amaze me that in modern time with such things as Radar that this can happen!
WTF happened? You cant exactly "miss" a fookin oil tanker can you?
WTF happened? You cant exactly "miss" a fookin oil tanker can you?
They allow alcohol on these ships!
It takes a horrendous distance for these large ships to alter course - miles, and if they're on autopilot the sailor chappy may be playing cards and drinking vodka, and not notice in time
That'll drive the price of jap imports up
24 May 2004, 07:42 PM
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And here's a link: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...rry&sec=latest
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...250864321.html
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...250864321.html
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24 May 2004, 07:48 PM
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A mate had a mint R32 GTR onboard, to say he's gutted is understatement of the century 
It's covered on insurance, but it took him ages to find the right car and he got it for a bit of a bargain price too
It's covered on insurance, but it took him ages to find the right car and he got it for a bit of a bargain price too
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Originally Posted by jpmason33
it does amaze me that in modern time with such things as Radar that this can happen!
WTF happened? You cant exactly "miss" a fookin oil tanker can you?
WTF happened? You cant exactly "miss" a fookin oil tanker can you?
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24 May 2004, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
Some years ago we had a container full of engines on a ship that crashed into the Isle of Wight !!
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25 May 2004, 02:28 AM
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If its Hyundai Merchant Marine then it will be the Asian Legend or one of its sister ships. Woe betide anyone who hasnt got marine insurance as everyone with a car on board is equally liable for the salvage cost of the vessel.....
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25 May 2004, 07:48 AM
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Prior to the collision, warnings were given to the two vessels by the MPA's vessel traffic information service. The two vessels also communicated with each other,'' the Ports Authority said in a statement
"get out my way"
"no you get out my way"
"NO, YOU get out MY way"
"NOOOO, YOU get out my.....OOPS"
25 May 2004, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Beastie
There was also 4000 brand new Hyundai cars on board.
No great loss then ! A quck whip round at any pub will have them paid for.
However It is a serious problem for anyone with vehicles on the ship, in terms of cost. If they aren't insured, you have the loss of the car. Secondly, Lloyds of London may declare ' General Average ' on the ship; that means that everyone [ or their insurance company ] with cargo onboard, will contribute an equal amount of the cost of the loss or salvage of the vessel.
'General Average' is a term in the fine print on the back of ANY shipping document and by signing the Bill of lading [ or your agent signs ] you are accepting the terms and conditions.
When ' our ' ship hit the Isle of Wight we were responsible for over 2 grands worth of contribution to general average. Memory tells me that we told them to get stuffed, but whether we did actually pay is lost in time.
Interestingly the B/L also allows the shipping company to deliver the goods anywhere, at anytime, to have deemed to have fulfilled their obligation. They are not duty bound to deliver it to Southampton [ or wherever in the UK ] at any particular date........
Real hard luck on you guys that have lost cars, I'm sorry for you.
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25 May 2004, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
No great loss then ! A quck whip round at any pub will have them paid for.
However It is a serious problem for anyone with vehicles on the ship, in terms of cost. If they aren't insured, you have the loss of the car. Secondly, Lloyds of London may declare ' General Average ' on the ship; that means that everyone [ or their insurance company ] with cargo onboard, will contribute an equal amount of the cost of the loss or salvage of the vessel.
'General Average' is a term in the fine print on the back of ANY shipping document and by signing the Bill of lading [ or your agent signs ] you are accepting the terms and conditions.
When ' our ' ship hit the Isle of Wight we were responsible for over 2 grands worth of contribution to general average. Memory tells me that we told them to get stuffed, but whether we did actually pay is lost in time.
Interestingly the B/L also allows the shipping company to deliver the goods anywhere, at anytime, to have deemed to have fulfilled their obligation. They are not duty bound to deliver it to Southampton [ or wherever in the UK ] at any particular date........
Real hard luck on you guys that have lost cars, I'm sorry for you.
David API
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25 May 2004, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
Interestingly the B/L also allows the shipping company to deliver the goods anywhere, at anytime, to have deemed to have fulfilled their obligation. David API
25 May 2004, 02:11 PM
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Reminds me of the old joke circulated many, many, many (too many) moons ago:
This is the transcript of an actual radio conversation between a US naval ship and Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October 1995. The Radio conversation was released by the Chief of Naval Operations on Oct. 10, 1995.
US Ship: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
CND reply: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
US Ship: This is the Captain of a US Navy Ship. I say again, divert your course.
CND reply: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course!
US Ship: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS NIMITZ, WE ARE A LARGE WARSHIP OF THE US NAVY. DIVERT YOUR COURSE NOW!!
CND reply: This is a lighthouse. Your call.
This is the transcript of an actual radio conversation between a US naval ship and Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October 1995. The Radio conversation was released by the Chief of Naval Operations on Oct. 10, 1995.
US Ship: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
CND reply: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
US Ship: This is the Captain of a US Navy Ship. I say again, divert your course.
CND reply: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course!
US Ship: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS NIMITZ, WE ARE A LARGE WARSHIP OF THE US NAVY. DIVERT YOUR COURSE NOW!!
CND reply: This is a lighthouse. Your call.