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Old 12 May 2004, 01:04 PM
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Angry Oil change - a joke!?

I am in the middle of 2 services so decided it was a good idea to get my oil changed.

I work away from home during the week and there is a dealer close to where I work. I rang them and asked how much it is just for an oil and filter change only.

Ready?

£107.50



So, I will be changing it myself I think. Where it the filter and is it hard to get too ? I just had a look under the bonnet and cant see it - is it underneath?
Old 12 May 2004, 01:15 PM
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Need to get under the car maybe?
Old 12 May 2004, 01:20 PM
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Listers of Worcester said 168 quid then haggled down to 135 quid - told them to royally stick it up their **** with a handful of wasps
Old 12 May 2004, 01:20 PM
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you have to take the engine undertray off. its at the front of the engine just behind the cross pipe of the exhaust system. make sure you prime it properly or clatter clatter bang bang.
Old 12 May 2004, 01:21 PM
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Yep, just had the 1000 mile service done on my Scoob, which is basically an oil change and general look over - £130.
Old 12 May 2004, 01:21 PM
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Easy DIY job to do. £107 taking the p!ss really.
As advised make sure you fill the oil filter repeatedly before screwing it on, fill it let it settle, fill it let it settle etc. it holds a lot of oil, even the new breed of smaller filters (which I am still not happy about) hold a startling amount of oil.

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Old 12 May 2004, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
you have to take the engine undertray off. its at the front of the engine just behind the cross pipe of the exhaust system. make sure you prime it properly or clatter clatter bang bang.
Can you explain what you mean? Do you mean oiling the filter?

Is the undertray easy to remove?
Old 12 May 2004, 01:26 PM
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My local garage change my oil for free! So it costs me £14.99 for the filter.
Old 12 May 2004, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Vonzack
Yep, just had the 1000 mile service done on my Scoob, which is basically an oil change and general look over - £130.
......and you didn't question the cost? The labour is free for the 1000 mile inspection, so even with Mobil 1, mine only cost £50.
Old 12 May 2004, 01:29 PM
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Undertray is more of a sump guard, depends on the year but on my MY99 couple of bolts at the front, couple at the back, a 10mm socket head screw under each arch and two large plastic clips at the back of the guard. comes of really easily
Old 12 May 2004, 01:29 PM
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By the time you've put in £40 - £50 of oil a £13 oil filter and an hours labour (note all brake components and drive shafts should be checked too ) then there is a trip to the tip to dispose of the used engine oil... time spent with swarfega cleaning hands (& cleaning the oil off the cat who came to see what you were doing in her nice warm sheltered spot under the car )

It's not quite the 'no-brainer' it looks to be...

Cheers

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Old 12 May 2004, 01:32 PM
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Mick, how true is the cat thing !!! usually scares me to death and its not even mine !
Old 12 May 2004, 01:37 PM
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Just something that occurred to me as an example of something that could make a job longer... Hasn't happened to me (yet!) might happen with a small child though

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Old 12 May 2004, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mick
LOL

Just something that occurred to me as an example of something that could make a job longer... Hasn't happened to me (yet!) might happen with a small child though

Mick
The pit in my (dad's) garage is very dark so when you have the inspection lamp on and out of the corner of my eye you see two orange globes glaring at you …… does get a bit freaky, along with the large spiders that seem to breed down there !
Old 12 May 2004, 01:53 PM
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Sorted it now, taking to to a local specialist for way less.
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Nice one
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I did an oil change at the weekend and including time to fill the oil filter and to crank the engine over with the Crank position sensor Disconected to build up oil pressure, clean up etc, it took just over 40 minutes, and all the bits and bobs set me back £45 from hellfrauds. It really is an easy job, this was the first oil change I have done on the scooby, although I have yet to dispose of the oil at the local civic aminities centre, although I will probably do this tomorrow morning when it will be quiet.
Old 12 May 2004, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by billythekid
Do you mean oiling the filter?
Take your time primeing the filter its like a sponge. Generaly takes 1hr of little top ups to get it right.
Old 12 May 2004, 08:16 PM
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1) Warm engine
2) Drain old oil from sump
3) Remove old filter
4) Pre-fill new filter with fresh oil. Fill and keep filling until it won't take anymore.
5) Apply new filter
6) Apply new washer to sump plug and tighten
7) Fill engine oil filler to mid-way between two holes on the dipstick
8) Disconnect crank sensor
9) (Preferably) remove spark plugs
10) Dry crank engine at least until oil pressure light extinguishes - ideally for 20 seconds or so more.
11) Refit spark plugs
12) Refit crank sensor plug
13) Start engine, leave to idle for a good minute or so before driving for oil pressure to stabilise
14) Check sump plug and filter seal for adequate tightness/leaks
15) Go for slow drive until engine fully warmed
16) Top engine oil to upper hole
17) Check sump plug and filter seal for adequate tightness/leaks
Old 12 May 2004, 08:34 PM
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done mines myself on tuesday morning, took me about 30 mins & £50ish for oil & filter

just an intermediate at 4000 miles 04 sti
Old 12 May 2004, 08:42 PM
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For everyones info - the genuine Subaru Filter is now £4:50! WOW!

And whats all this cobblers about building up pressure and stuff?? Changed many many cars oil and filter (not the Scooby as yet) and all I do is fill the filter with oil, not spending 1 hour topping up!!

Screw the damned thing on, fill with oil and start the frigging thing up

What a bunch of old women - filling filter for an hour, cranking engine, replacing plugs Blah, Blah, Blah, you don't think for one moment the dealers do that!!

Or do you??

Nothing gets the oil round faster than a revving engine!

Pete
Old 12 May 2004, 08:54 PM
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its down the bottom on the left handside of the engine as you look at it from the front.

you can see it if you have a torch or something!
Old 12 May 2004, 08:54 PM
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Just got in. Had my oil changed after work by my local specialist.

Watched how he did it and will prob do it myself next time.

I do think removing the plugs and cranking is a bit much for a road car but if you want to take the time and care to do that then it is good practice - but I doubt the dealers do it. On my race car I change the oil after every outing on the track and I do usually crank it over for 10 secs before I fire her up.
Old 12 May 2004, 08:56 PM
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If our local dealer does all that then it's carried out Formula 1 stylee as they only charge for 20 minutes labour
Old 12 May 2004, 09:08 PM
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so how neccassary is all that dry cranking business and filling the filter.
on my astra i changed many many times i lost count actually, i never did that, whats of different that it needs special tlc
Old 12 May 2004, 09:23 PM
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takes me about 15 mins to change oil and filter, and costs about £20.

most of the time is draining and filling.

oh and mix old oil with creosote(?) great for fences and sheds etc.......
Old 12 May 2004, 09:29 PM
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xiw2155

shhh the scoobynet hit squsd will be out pouring scorn on your post......

its the official sial oilchange.....

you know all marques have ther little foibles.... the scoob has the oil change!!! oh and the wave


i have had the oil squad pay visits to my posts...... for suggesting the same as you...

one i had to chuckle at was (flame suiton)

every oil filter should be primed this way.......


ah yes so i can tip the contents over the front of my engine when i screw it on (filter fitted to the vertical face of the block)

i know what you mean..... but?????????


lol


mart
Old 12 May 2004, 09:54 PM
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And the crank position sensor lives... where?

Ta

V
Old 12 May 2004, 10:55 PM
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So how likely is the average Subaru dealer to follow such a routine or do you reckon as it's not their car after changing the oil they just put on a new filter and let it fill up whilst the engine's running?
Old 12 May 2004, 11:03 PM
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that looks a lot like the sequence I typed up CB

never done it myself though yet,although its due, just what I put together from other posts on SNet. Glad you put it up though as I'd lost it when my HDD crash last month

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