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Old 18 March 2004, 10:19 AM
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I've had my 03WRX for about 3 months now, At first it was yeeeehah and now it just seems a bit flat.
I don't know if this is just me but i timed a 0-60 the other day and the best i could get was 10 seconds??????? On a proper road and starting with about 3.5 K revs b4 i yammed the clutch out.
What's everyone elses like? Mine feels like a pancake until about 4.5 K when the turbo really starts blowing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The dealer trying to convince me that this is normal!!!!!!!!!!!! Surely everyone elses isn't like this?
If this is normal i think i need a prodrive pack or an STi!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 18 March 2004, 10:22 AM
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0 to 60 in 10 seconds in a wrx !!!!??? did you have a cravan on the back ??

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Old 18 March 2004, 10:25 AM
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As the weather has warmed up a bit the car might feel a little slower due to warmer air going in to the intercooler , but hardly that noticeable !!
Old 18 March 2004, 10:26 AM
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hi mate 10 seconds is very slow isnt it suppose to be more like 5.5-6 seconds. i was like you when i got my car it was like woohoo too fast but you do get used to the speed and it does feel slow.but when i get some of my friends in the scoob they dont half ****e them selves so it cant be that slow its just you get used to the speed and theres always the next level like you said ppp.go for this because alot of peeps on here swear by it
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Originally Posted by IN THE STICKS
0 to 60 in 10 seconds in a wrx !!!!??? did you have a cravan on the back ??

Dave
No-one else in the car either?
It can't be running right?
5-6 seconds is a joke a the moment, engines flat as a pancake till the blower comes in.
Old 18 March 2004, 10:29 AM
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What are you doing wasting time here???? Go and visit Mr Rawle
Old 18 March 2004, 10:30 AM
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10 Seconds !

I'd be surprised at that if you'd pulled off in second ...

Side-stepping the clutch at 3.5K will

a) reduce the clutch life like nobodys business
b) should make you leap off the line like a scalded cat

I'd agree that 'some days' the car will feel slow, but thats usually either you or the temperature, but it shouldn't be THAT slow in real terms...

If the car is launched as you describe, I'd imagine that 0-20 is almost instant, so thats 9+ seconds from 20 to 60 - How long did it take to run out of 1st ?

Maybe its just me......

Mark

PS _ Dealer sells a car - claims 0-60 around 6 seconds - then tells you that 10 is 'normal' ?
Old 18 March 2004, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Brun
What are you doing wasting time here???? Go and visit Mr Rawle
Be honest and try to get 5 seconds 0-60, you won't get anywhere near it?
Old 18 March 2004, 10:31 AM
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I think you need to drop the clutch at nearer 5000 revs. 0-60s, however, are not a good way of preserving your clutch!


N.B. At 4000 revs, there's only about 150 horsepower available- I'm sure some knowledgeable character will have the exact figure.
Old 18 March 2004, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by markwild
10 Seconds !



If the car is launched as you describe, I'd imagine that 0-20 is almost instant, so thats 9+ seconds from 20 to 60 - How long did it take to run out of 1st ?

Maybe its just me......

Mark

PS _ Dealer sells a car - claims 0-60 around 6 seconds - then tells you that 10 is 'normal' ?
Dealer says the car is running fine, if its doing 10 seconds surely iit can't be?
If you control the clutch rather than side stepping it out you can melt away.
My motor dooesn't feel like it will launch anywhere?
Old 18 March 2004, 10:36 AM
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my 1.8 16v orion(130bhp) orion does 0-60 in 8½ seconds so your car aint performing properly!!

I'd get it checked if i were you
Old 18 March 2004, 10:41 AM
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Christ, be fair, you don't honestly expect a 6 second 0-60 in the real world do you?

Manufaturers get performance figures like that by absolutely caning the car, wrecking the clutch in the process.

More likely answer is that you've just got used to the performance, it always happens when you've had a car for a while.
Old 18 March 2004, 10:42 AM
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Where abouts are you in the country - maybe someone can give you a second opinion...

updated to say:

I wouldn't expect a 0-60 of 6 seconds, but I'd expect it to be a lot less than 10

Mark

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Old 18 March 2004, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by markwild
Where abouts are you in the country - maybe someone can give you a second opinion...

updated to say:

I wouldn't expect a 0-60 of 6 seconds, but I'd expect it to be a lot less than 10

Mark
West Midlands/central
Old 18 March 2004, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dapster50
Be honest and try to get 5 seconds 0-60, you won't get anywhere near it?
Of course you can. Equalling published figures involves both proper timing gear and a very rough driving technique, but you should be able to get pretty close to them in an Impreza without breaking anything, as the published acceleration figures tend to be on the conservative side. For many years the official 0-60 on the UK Turbos was 6.4, while magazines routinely found that it was really in the 5.something region...

I'm not sure why you're wasting our time with this one, you should be talking to the dealer.

Assuming your car is properly run-in (should have at least a couple of thousand miles on it and be running on "real" oil before you even attempt timed 0-60's!), you should have no problem getting to an indicated 60 in well under 7 seconds, and without sh*gging either clutch or gearbox in the process.

If you can't, there's either something wrong with your car, or something wrong with your driving technique. We can't comment on the latter without seeing the way you drive, but as the car is specified to do 0-60 in something like six seconds, you shouldn't accept a dealer's assurance that 10-odd seconds is "normal". Take the car back to them, and insist it's sorted.

Edited to add that 3500rpm and dumping the clutch is not the way to launch. More revs and feeding the clutch quickly in will stop the car bogging down. Did you try this?

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Old 18 March 2004, 10:50 AM
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It can't be running right?
No its not, defo not Take it to the dealer NOW!!!!

Even if we assume you didn't launch and bogged the turbo down costing you a second and that your timing methods were crap costing you another second. Add that to a 6s 0-60 and thats still 8s!!! Even if you can't beat 8 on the stopwatch I'd take it back as something is very wrong somewhere

5s 0-60 with UK turbos is possible but you MUST know how to and be willing to launch it like a *****
Old 18 March 2004, 10:50 AM
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I timed mine once (standard classic) with my brother driving- It was his first go at launching it and he was very unused to the clutch, but he got sub-seven seconds. There's summat wrong.
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Be honest and try to get 5 seconds 0-60, you won't get anywhere near it?
I timed my Clio 16v 0-65 (to allow for speedo error) loads of times and had no problem getting under 8.5s (factory quote 7.7s to 62mph) This was being quite easy on the clutch too. If i was getting anywhere near 10 in my Scoob, i would be trading up to a valver
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no1 bothered to ask how'd ya know it took 10 seconds???? sounds dodgy to me.

a saxo VTR is quicker than 10seconds.

how much revs do u give it in each gear b4 changing?
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Old 18 March 2004, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
no1 bothered to ask how'd ya know it took 10 seconds???? sounds dodgy to me.

a saxo VTR is quicker than 10seconds.

how much revs do u give it in each gear b4 changing?
Till the engine labours 6500-7200 and also right to the limit
Old 18 March 2004, 10:59 AM
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Too much. The boost rapidly tails off high up in the rev range on a standard WRX. Depending on what gear you're in, there's little point going above 6-6200.

Incidentally, how many miles has the car got on it now?

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Old 18 March 2004, 11:18 AM
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I'd agree that your technique might be off and that its got too few miles on to have loosened up by now, but I'm surprised it feels slow - I really feel that you should get someone with some Subaru experience to take a look -

Also, I understand the frustration of talking to a dealer who says 'its OK' - or 'its normal' !!

Get yourself along to the local meet or find someone in your area - you may need to be a bit more specific than 'central' though ! (DON'T POST YOUR ADDRESS)...

Not much anyone can do to help remotely - improving your launch and gear changes will better things, but at this mileage I wouldn't be fighting over a few tenths of a second - Just find out if all is OK, with it being so far out....

Mark
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The car must be fooked IMHO. Its hard to accelerate through the gears in an Impreza and NOT hit 60mph in under 10. As soon as the car comes on boost (even on part throttle) it make a considerable difference to the rate of acceleration. I find that even just part throttle and changing gear at 4k rpm she still punches her way to 60mph in about 10s or so.
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0-60 in 10 secs - I think you've bought a GX, not a WRX
Old 18 March 2004, 12:24 PM
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Lol! That'd be about right, the GX 0-60 is supposed to be 10.2 secs.
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03 WRX - (Max assault - only for use if you have no mechanical sympathy) Hold revs at 5-5,500 rpm - sidestep clutch - floor throttle as engages. Change gear before 6,500rpm as fast as you can (without lifting off throttle) - banging lever into 2nd gear!

This is quick smell that clutch as front tyres start spinning - torque transfered backwards - back end squats - body crushed into seat ..... good 0-60.
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Originally Posted by wilmabeast
Christ, be fair, you don't honestly expect a 6 second 0-60 in the real world do you?
No I expect 5 second 0-60

You did remember to change into 2nd didnt you?
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had to ask,,,,the watch,,,,well is it ok
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Originally Posted by Dapster50
I've had my 03WRX for about 3 months now, At first it was yeeeehah and now it just seems a bit flat.
I don't know if this is just me but i timed a 0-60 the other day and the best i could get was 10 seconds???????
Wanna race.


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