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Old 05 February 2004, 11:59 PM
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Question STI 4 vs Skyline GTR Vspec

just a quick 1 which is quicker ?
sti - blitz cone, full decat, s/s 4" straight through approx 320 - 340 bhp
gtr - thrust downpipes apexi filters stage 1 ecu approx 380 - 400 bhp

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Old 06 February 2004, 12:28 AM
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Im no expert, but surely an extra 60bhp gives the game away?

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Old 06 February 2004, 12:38 AM
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JB.

The Skyline is much heavier so the STi may be quicker! Anyone know the weight of each ie BHP per tonne?

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Old 06 February 2004, 12:47 AM
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Im aware of the P-2-W (sorry, being lazy) ratio advantage, but surely a 60bhp difference is a big gap to bridge, its not like we're talking about Megabusa vs Challanger tank?

Id be interested to know the facts tho.

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Old 06 February 2004, 08:15 AM
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What is the torque figure for both cars. This will indicate the lower to mid range acceleration abilities.

'Snap throttle response' if you will

Top end it will be the Nissan as the higher BHP will overcome the drag required to pull the car through to a higher speed. They are also more rwd bisaed over a certain point.

AFAIK anyway

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Old 06 February 2004, 08:44 AM
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Surely the GTR. With 60 extra horses and all those computer gadgets under the hood like the Altessa E-TS pro would see it off the line much quicker.

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Old 06 February 2004, 08:51 PM
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thanks guys
i was guessing the 60 bhp would overcome the weight
sorry but dont know the torque
i was just thinking about the extra beef the sky carries.I sat in 1 and looked over it the other day
its a big monster !!!!
Old 06 February 2004, 08:59 PM
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theres one for sale in a mitsi dealership nr edinburgh an its WOW !!!! but 40k for a 51 reg ??
Old 06 February 2004, 09:20 PM
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My GTR is a stormer compared to my old WRX..

Your spec of Impreza is a lot more than mine (mine was circa 280bhp), but my Skyline is same spec as you mention and it goes!. They rev like hell and just keep pulling.
Old 06 February 2004, 09:33 PM
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Nice 1 James
what year is your m8 ?
is it a v spec ?
what mods u got ?
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any pics ?
Old 06 February 2004, 11:48 PM
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impreza at 1200kgs 340bhp= 283bhp/ton
skyline at 1600kgs 400bhp= 250bhp/ton
Old 07 February 2004, 12:25 AM
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thought the scooby was 1280 kgs ?
Old 07 February 2004, 12:25 AM
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STi4 with just induction/decat unlikely to make a genuine 340bhp, more like 300-310 on an average RR IMHO, unless there are also other mods.

Skyline likely to have a healthy torque advantage etc due to bigger capacity engine.

Probably won't notice much difference through 1st and 2nd gear, but the higher the speed climbs, the more the skylines overall power would pull it away, again IMHO
Old 07 February 2004, 07:55 AM
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According to my figures, a 380bhp R32 Skyline (don't have a weight to hand for the later ones which are heavier) would be roughly equal to a 325bhp Scooby.
Old 07 February 2004, 01:37 PM
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Mine is a 92..

To be honest it's easy to comment if you haven't experienced both, but IMO the 2 cars/specs you have there (btw I'd say an sti 4 with only those mods would be circa 310bhp IMO), the GTR is 'supposed' to be 280bhp from the factory (due to Japanese regs), but in reality when they are put on the rollers here, standard ones put out 320bhp. With the mods on that Skyline you talk of it will easily be a solid 380bhp.

The gearing is a big issue, the Skyline is longer in the gears and 1st gear is actually awesome compared to my scoob (which would be over in about half a second on WOT), they rev higher also (which I was suprised about for a straight six).

I see it like this it would be close from a standing start (but GTR ahead slightly because of longer 1st), then once in top of revs in 2nd gear the longer legs would see it pull away a bit more as scoob changes gear then once into 3rd, 4th and 5th the GTR would pull a considerable amount.

All IMO ofcoarse

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Old 07 February 2004, 02:12 PM
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Look here

after 200m I think the Skyline would have eat the Scoob
Old 07 February 2004, 02:32 PM
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Over short and twisty stuff the Sccoby be ahead. Lomg sweeping roads and most tracks the Skyline would leave it for dead. But all depends on the driver really.
Old 07 February 2004, 05:40 PM
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nice vid sammyh....
but the drivers must be cr@p..both stalling after about 2 secs..... :P

or is it just my pc??

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Just because it has 60bhp more doesnt mean thats what decides if its quicker or not.
Old 07 February 2004, 08:06 PM
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thanks again guys
320 bhp was just a guess on my wrx but it does go !!!
i just dont want to get a gtr and be dissapointed !!!
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Old 07 February 2004, 09:58 PM
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Like the vid sammyh - so that's the answer then !!
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