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Old 16 December 2003, 09:35 AM
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Have now outrun the following in my pretty standard 03 WRX (252bhp), to name but a few:
Focus RS (enjoyed that)
TT - 225 Turbo and 3.2
Porsche Boxster - 2.5 and 2.7 (but not 3.2)
Porsche 964
Porsche 993
BMW 330i
Honda S2000
BMW 540i
Acccord Type R
Civic Type R (lots)
Lotus Elise Mk 1&2
Clio 172
VW Golf R32 (which was close)
Alfa 147 GTA (just - in a straight line)

Ever had a decent "battle" with something?

Old 16 December 2003, 09:44 AM
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Got my *** kicked by this lol



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Old 16 December 2003, 09:46 AM
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OllyK - embarassing but not surprising ...
Old 16 December 2003, 09:51 AM
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There was a 3 wheel version about as well but I can't find any pictures of it, saw it at Santa Pod a long time back.

But in answer to your question, I have a MY00 Wagon and not really had any head to head's worth mentioning. There is a really silly set of traffic lights on the way to work. Left lane is left turn only and right lane is straight on and right (and it doesn't have a right turn green light ). I usually potter up the left hand lane to avoid the queue, not had anything that caused me any concern yet.
Old 16 December 2003, 09:51 AM
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That's mental
Old 16 December 2003, 09:52 AM
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How close was the drag with the Boxters / Focus? Surprised at the R32 result. Would have thought you would have mashed that.

Well done Sir.
Old 16 December 2003, 10:58 AM
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That all sounds reasonable to me......except the 993 Porsche (unless wet). 0-60 in 5.1 secs and 0-100 in 12 secs. There's not a big difference between 993 and 996 in terms of performance.
I kept up with a 996 C4 the other day, but that was going all out and in my 310bhp Type R.

However, well done! I do like to play with other cars, so long as it's safe(ish) to do so and done in good spirit.
Old 16 December 2003, 11:03 AM
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I would like to see you up against my mates mark 2 golf That can beat an S2000

Paul
Old 16 December 2003, 11:09 AM
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Little Clanger - R32 was on a dual carriageway and braking for roundabouts he had much better brakes and I'm sure the Golf has far superior aerodynamics!
Boxsters - cross country, he gained a lot on the brakes, held me on the corners, but I pulled away in a straight line!
RS - very gradual only started gaining anything once into 3rd!

MadGypsy - A friend has suggested it may have been Tiptronic, but was a very close, smoking full bore start .....
The 996 3.6 Carrera 2 I drove recently was way faster than the 993 I drove previously - and with the sports suspension - add 5mph to every corner!





[Edited by MadMark - 12/16/2003 11:14:06 AM]
Old 16 December 2003, 11:10 AM
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Paul - bring it on - certainly off the line!
Old 16 December 2003, 11:10 AM
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Had a good run with a Lotus Elise 111s a while back between Charing and Chillam in Kent, beat him in my MY00 standard scooby. When got to the roundabout in Chillam he pulled up alongside me with big smile and gave me the thumbs up.

Also chased a Volvo S40 sport thing who was on a bit of a mission, we both slowed after he hit a fox at about 80mph. (Adrenalin is brown!)

Lots of fun
Old 16 December 2003, 11:17 AM
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I reckon it could be good fun Off the line it wouldn't be a match obviously but it's seriously quick It's got the 2.8 VR6 lump fitted to it and it torque steers like a b@stard Sounds mental too

Paul

[Edited by paulpalmer - 12/16/2003 11:18:59 AM]
Old 16 December 2003, 11:18 AM
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Was the R32 local & metallic blue?

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Old 16 December 2003, 11:25 AM
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Had a run in with a Boxster S the other day. From a rolling start I pulled away from him quite a bit, but not loads. He apeared a few minutes later up my **** at about 90-100mph, I put my foot down and pulled away from him VERY slowly. I was surprised as I have frightened the bejesus out of a few Boxster drivers before.
I didn't know the S version was so much faster.

I guess I expect too much from my Type R at times. If a car doesn't dissapear like it's going backwards, I start thinking about serious mods to ensure these inferior cars (Porsche's, BMW's etc ) never keep up again.
Old 16 December 2003, 11:53 AM
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Paul - Ok - used to be Vice Chairman of Club VR6 so well familiar with MK2 conversions .... my MK3 was still quicker - albeit with 230bhp and 240lb/ft of torque!

Yup blue R32!

MadGypsy - Apparently the power figures for the "S" are conservative and even though they quote 260bhp - they usually have a bit more - and are very aerodynamic for high speed stuff! I can keep up until they get into 3rd gear - then they waft away!
Old 16 December 2003, 11:57 AM
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Was it a woman driving the R32?

The mark 2 would have been lighter I would have thought Another friend is build a 350bhp mark 2 with a tt engine and cupra R 6 speed gearbox

Paul
Old 16 December 2003, 12:14 PM
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No - bloke in R32

Yup but normally the Mk2 owners don't spend several thousand pounds on their VR6 engine tuning - and putting that engine in swallows a lot of the weight advantage (they are then about 980kg)! Mk3 Vr6 = 1180kg
Mk2 2.8 VR6 conversion (standard) = 180bhp/ton
Mk2 2.9 VR6 conversion (standard) = 194bhp/ton
My old Mk3 = 200bhp/ton (and racing wishbone bushes and engine mounts for more traction)


1.8T will be a stormer ....
Old 16 December 2003, 12:18 PM
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I can't wait to drive the mark 2 I thought the VR6 was

I thought I knew who owned the R32 but that would have been a woman.

Anyway back to the thread (sorry for the hijack )

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Old 16 December 2003, 12:39 PM
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Not doubting your integrity m8 - but where exactly have you outrun this fabulous list of cars? I have only managed to come across a few of these cars on the normal roads - and certainly not enough to claim i have "beaten them"

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Old 16 December 2003, 12:45 PM
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Anoraks!!
Old 16 December 2003, 12:51 PM
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Wrx 03

What?
Old 16 December 2003, 12:55 PM
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that is a pretty impressive list and emphasizes what is so good about Imprezas. I now drive a 944 Turbo, which is quicker than my previous RB5 WR. But I was last week whooped by a classic shape WRX, simply because I couldnt put the power down on the slightly slippery roads. Floored it in second and by the time I had the car pointing in a straight line the WRX was not worth chasing. All good fun though . Bring on the summer! (by the way Mark I work in Bourne End so if I ever come up behind you on a nice summers day, dry roads, you with 4 people in the car, etc I will try to regain some Porsche honour )

Steve
Old 16 December 2003, 02:15 PM
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Wrx 03 - I know .....

Jza - No problem. Where do you live? Compton in Cornwall, Berkshire, Hamshire, or West Sussex?
Basically I'm right in the heart of the Thames Valley and due to the "Silcon Valley" effect and my proximity to London - they're all over the place!
Old 16 December 2003, 03:03 PM
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RB5320 - Really - where abouts do you work? And the 220 or 250bhp version?

My buddy has a Black 944T SE - chipped to about 300bhp and in the dry I wouldn't see him for dust .....
Old 16 December 2003, 03:17 PM
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Mark - just by Dukes Meadow ind estate.
Mine is a 250 BHP Turbo S, which I intend to get chipped once my right foot learns a bit of restraint . Like you say - impressive in the dry, can be embarassing in the wet

Steve
Old 16 December 2003, 04:06 PM
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But fun More fun than a scoob
Old 16 December 2003, 04:11 PM
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i think the question is, is there anything that you won't race
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Saxo ?
Old 16 December 2003, 05:00 PM
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What is amazing is that everyone is saying my mates modified car can do this and that. He has a standard 03 WRX. Cars he raced all standard by sounds of it. Independent magazine test listings show WRX quicker to 60 than all the rest bar the porsche.
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I like to have the odd race for a laugh and have played with all sorts - but my faves are the drivers that think their car is soooo superior (e.g any BMW driver - but anything less than a 330i is boring, and all those TT drivers who think they have bought a sportscar ...)

Lightning101 - Yup have played with Stuart Knight (who has a 340bhp classic) and until I am well into 3rd gear we are fairly even! 0-60 is less relevant than 0-100 or 30-70 through the gears though. Some I have played with cross country, tight and twisting roads (a la Boxsters), but a lot on Dual Carriageways where the Scoobs traction advantage becomes transmission losses and a lack of Aerodynamics - then it's a fairer fight! What do you drive?


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