Is the scooby losing its reputation
20 January 2003, 09:41 PM
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Never even contemplated having a go at a scooby, thought any standard or not would wipe the floor (uk MR2), but i read on here people have bother from mondeo lx's, and civic type-r owners claiming their faster end of story, i have a go at every type r i ever see and usually come out on top...maybe the new scoobs arn't all that, running on the old cars reputation. I always had em down to be one of the quickest (common) cars on the road.
20 January 2003, 09:43 PM
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Possibly 
I'm the young un' in my office and steve the senior planner says he always sees neds in scoobys. I always argue back and there is some good banter back and forth
Today I went over to get money out the bank and as I crossed over the road an MY00 with v. loud zorst and youngish driver pulled up. I could see steve heading towards me so I pointed at the scooby in 'look at the quality impreza' fashion. Steve smiled and shook his head - a short of real life '
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I said, 'she a nice one, can't argue they are great cars'
Steve said, 'looks young and ned like to me'
I said, 'nah, he's ages with myself and looks sensible'
At that point there was a brake in the traffic and the scooby driver attempted to do a turn in the road by going full lock and dumping the clutch. The diffs were having none of it and didn't send enough power to the rear so he almost nailed a parked car. He then fiddled around totally blocking both lanes before driving off at speed
I know we all have our moments but after that steve smiled and shook his head. I walked away as the arguement was lost this time
I'm the young un' in my office and steve the senior planner says he always sees neds in scoobys. I always argue back and there is some good banter back and forth
Today I went over to get money out the bank and as I crossed over the road an MY00 with v. loud zorst and youngish driver pulled up. I could see steve heading towards me so I pointed at the scooby in 'look at the quality impreza' fashion. Steve smiled and shook his head - a short of real life '
'I said, 'she a nice one, can't argue they are great cars'
Steve said, 'looks young and ned like to me'
I said, 'nah, he's ages with myself and looks sensible'
At that point there was a brake in the traffic and the scooby driver attempted to do a turn in the road by going full lock and dumping the clutch. The diffs were having none of it and didn't send enough power to the rear so he almost nailed a parked car. He then fiddled around totally blocking both lanes before driving off at speed
I know we all have our moments but after that steve smiled and shook his head. I walked away as the arguement was lost this time
20 January 2003, 10:40 PM
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hmm i wonder, it's only taken other companies (ford, renault, honda etc) about 10 years to bring out a competitor, which are all 2wheel drive and about the same (no cross the board beaters in this market anymore ... - well until the 2.5 Sti8 comes out over here )
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20 January 2003, 10:53 PM
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The Jap scoobys still outperfom most other cars in the UK.
But the UK scoobys are now being put up against (and out performed in some cases) by cars like the nrew Focus RS etc...
I think its time the UK scoobys came with the same spec that the Jap scoobys come with. Then they will be ahead in the field. It must be a relativly easy move as the technology is there in Japan, and the Damn UK scoobys are built there....
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[Edited by Gedi - 1/20/2003 10:55:11 PM]
But the UK scoobys are now being put up against (and out performed in some cases) by cars like the nrew Focus RS etc...
I think its time the UK scoobys came with the same spec that the Jap scoobys come with. Then they will be ahead in the field. It must be a relativly easy move as the technology is there in Japan, and the Damn UK scoobys are built there....
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[Edited by Gedi - 1/20/2003 10:55:11 PM]
20 January 2003, 11:23 PM
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a scoobys a scooby jap or uk it does not have to be the fastest on the road to mean something it has nothing to prove it's done that
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20 January 2003, 11:52 PM
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Ozzy, steve drives a 1.8T passat. He was hung over when he bought it and had to phone up 2 days before he collected it to ask what model of volkswagen he'd bought for insurance purposes That is how interested he is in cars
Shameful if you ask me
That is how interested he is in cars Shameful if you ask me
20 January 2003, 11:55 PM
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No denying its an amazing car. A cool 300bhp is a nice marker
IMO, and my opinion only, the TypeR and TypeRA are do, because they are slightly quicker and a bit more 'raw'
only my opinion though
IMO, and my opinion only, the TypeR and TypeRA are do, because they are slightly quicker and a bit more 'raw'
only my opinion though
21 January 2003, 12:04 AM
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Does it have to be new? List of STI is £26000 before ppp, you can get far more serious second hand motors for that cash
[Edited by Midmotorsteve - 1/21/2003 12:07:26 AM]
[Edited by Midmotorsteve - 1/21/2003 12:07:26 AM]
21 January 2003, 01:23 AM
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I have been wanting and saving to get my my02 scooby for a couple of years now and the amount of stares i get and the rarity of the scooby makes it all worth while. There are way too many bmw's out there and as said for the money new you can't get any better.
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21 January 2003, 02:29 AM
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I bought my WRX last year because of it's reputation. Looking around now i wish i'd waited as the 'competition' has changed. A few years ago it was the evo's, skylines, supras, M3s etc.... now it's the hot hatches scooby drivers are competing against... and more often thhan not the scoobs loose. I didn't buy my scoob to compete with Civics and RSs, I thought i was one step up from that... i was wrong.
so... my quick answer, yes!
so... my quick answer, yes!
21 January 2003, 08:15 AM
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I think the image of Subaru has changed and not for the better- a few comments I have recieved since buying MY96 Wagon- "wheres your baseball cap", "thats a P*ki's car", "tosser!!!!" etc. These cars now have the Saturday night cruise image (even my wagon!!!!!!). It doesnt bother me though 'cos for 7K I have the best car I've ever driven.
As for competing with CTR's and RS focus all I can say is their vehicles cost between 2 and 3 times the amount I spent and judging by the tyre scrabbling take off achieved by a recent "competitor" in a silver CTR all I can say they got bad value for money- I left the CTR for dead upto 80 until he found some traction by which time I'd eased off for the speed camera- he didnt and got flashed!!
As for competing with CTR's and RS focus all I can say is their vehicles cost between 2 and 3 times the amount I spent and judging by the tyre scrabbling take off achieved by a recent "competitor" in a silver CTR all I can say they got bad value for money- I left the CTR for dead upto 80 until he found some traction by which time I'd eased off for the speed camera- he didnt and got flashed!!
21 January 2003, 08:33 AM
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to be perfectly honest, in the wet or on twisties you can forget just about ANYTHING as regards competitors.
i live on the isle of wight before anyone starts jumping up and down. the roads were made for rally slags!
frankly, most stuff with front wheel drive, especially in these wet and slippery conditions, on the roads over here at least, might aswell stay in the garage! and yes i have owned powerful front wheel drive cars over here in all conditions.
scrabbling for fresh ground springs to mind.
in the dry, as one would expect, they can fly with the best of them (to a point, as roads are so bumpy and camber-ridden), but really in the wet over here, trying to give fwd any wellie, is an accident waiting to happen.
all IMHO of course!
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i live on the isle of wight before anyone starts jumping up and down. the roads were made for rally slags!
frankly, most stuff with front wheel drive, especially in these wet and slippery conditions, on the roads over here at least, might aswell stay in the garage! and yes i have owned powerful front wheel drive cars over here in all conditions.
scrabbling for fresh ground springs to mind.
in the dry, as one would expect, they can fly with the best of them (to a point, as roads are so bumpy and camber-ridden), but really in the wet over here, trying to give fwd any wellie, is an accident waiting to happen.
all IMHO of course!
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21 January 2003, 08:58 AM
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Not sure if it's the Scoob that's losing the reputation, more like the market being saturated by bad cheap imports, 18 year olds buying MY93 WRXs to show off, "boring" drivers buying them but never "driving" them.....
I could go as far to say that even Scoobynet is starting to lose it's edge now.
I haven't seen a few names on here for a while. 6 months ago I really enjoyed SN, now it's proliferated with "My car is faster...", "Who's the best..." and other repeating non-interesting threads which crop up regularly.
It's turning out to be one huge Muppet Show site (no offence Muppets
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No flame suit on here, mho that's all.
I could go as far to say that even Scoobynet is starting to lose it's edge now.
I haven't seen a few names on here for a while. 6 months ago I really enjoyed SN, now it's proliferated with "My car is faster...", "Who's the best..." and other repeating non-interesting threads which crop up regularly.
It's turning out to be one huge Muppet Show site (no offence Muppets
)No flame suit on here, mho that's all.
21 January 2003, 09:10 AM
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I bought my scoob cos I wanted one, I saved up for one and I thought they were the dogs danglies. I really didn't care for what anyone elses opinion about them was and still don't.
Any negative coments i get are never to my face, always after i've walked past someone and even then it's from people who will never be able to afford a knackered Sierra, let alone a scoob.
Other scoob owners who know what they are all about i.e its not all about speed, and other "serious" performance car owners still carry a flag for the scoob because it is 'kin fantastic and a benchmark for most performance cars (Supercars excluded).
Keep ya eye out for how the MY03 and MY04 flies off the shelves when Solberg and Makkinen raise the profile of the scoob again ala Burns and Mcrae (sp?) stylie in this years WRC championship
Enjoy and don't worry about what people think. It's your car not thiers. Find some "twisties" and have a laff You'll soon remember that scoobs ARE cool!
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Any negative coments i get are never to my face, always after i've walked past someone and even then it's from people who will never be able to afford a knackered Sierra, let alone a scoob.
Other scoob owners who know what they are all about i.e its not all about speed, and other "serious" performance car owners still carry a flag for the scoob because it is 'kin fantastic and a benchmark for most performance cars (Supercars excluded).
Keep ya eye out for how the MY03 and MY04 flies off the shelves when Solberg and Makkinen raise the profile of the scoob again ala Burns and Mcrae (sp?) stylie
in this years WRC championshipEnjoy and don't worry about what people think. It's your car not thiers. Find some "twisties" and have a laff
You'll soon remember that scoobs ARE cool!Mikey
21 January 2003, 09:56 AM
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IMO yes it has lost it's reputation .... much of this has to go down to the performance of the bug-eye and the availability of cheap early cars.
I don't think the reputation would have been lost if Subaru had given the bug-eye the STi's performance, what I mean was that the new WRX was in fact the STi7. The STi7 should have been the Sti7 with PPP.
It used to be Impreza's were road rockets, not much to touch them in a straight line or in the twisties (TM Scoobynet) and out of reach of the local ned cost wise.
Now they have been caught up performance wise by anything remotely quick - Type-R's, Clio's etc etc and there are lots of neds hooning around with 5 inch dustbins in crappy condition WRX's.
BUT .. IMO you can still have a Scooby and keep it's reputation. Keep mods subtle, change the wheels if you like, de-tango it, mod it to bits underneath if needs be .. keep the back-box under 4 inch, make it sound nice not just f**k off loud.
There is no need for stickers, neons, idiotic spoilers, lowering springs just for slammed looks and 20" alloys.
I still see unmodified P1's and think woah .. nice car, fast and reputation intact.
Same goes for nicely modded classic Scoobs, there is a silver MY00 saloon that goes about near me, nice 17" alloys, original boot spoiler, colour coded skirts, nice Scoobysport 3 1/2" tail pipe, that's it. Cool as you like. To me reputation still intact.
My fave MY01 is Jack Clarks silver wagon, still has bug eyes but colour coded skirts and front and rear spolier. The MUST have PPP for buy-eye to make it quick again. Subtle mods, reputation still intact.
Look at John Felstead's car, very cool why, cause we all know it's very quick, close ratio box, adjustable centre diff. It's not slammed, big drainpipe exhaust, fat ***** surf shack stickers, neons, 19's. It's been kept simple, reputation still intact.
I think the STi7 still has it's reputation.
Look after yours the right way and you can have a Scooby with it's reputation .. well IMO anyway.
Doofus.
I don't think the reputation would have been lost if Subaru had given the bug-eye the STi's performance, what I mean was that the new WRX was in fact the STi7. The STi7 should have been the Sti7 with PPP.
It used to be Impreza's were road rockets, not much to touch them in a straight line or in the twisties (TM Scoobynet) and out of reach of the local ned cost wise.
Now they have been caught up performance wise by anything remotely quick - Type-R's, Clio's etc etc and there are lots of neds hooning around with 5 inch dustbins in crappy condition WRX's.
BUT .. IMO you can still have a Scooby and keep it's reputation. Keep mods subtle, change the wheels if you like, de-tango it, mod it to bits underneath if needs be .. keep the back-box under 4 inch, make it sound nice not just f**k off loud.
There is no need for stickers, neons, idiotic spoilers, lowering springs just for slammed looks and 20" alloys.
I still see unmodified P1's and think woah .. nice car, fast and reputation intact.
Same goes for nicely modded classic Scoobs, there is a silver MY00 saloon that goes about near me, nice 17" alloys, original boot spoiler, colour coded skirts, nice Scoobysport 3 1/2" tail pipe, that's it. Cool as you like. To me reputation still intact.
My fave MY01 is Jack Clarks silver wagon, still has bug eyes but colour coded skirts and front and rear spolier. The MUST have PPP for buy-eye to make it quick again. Subtle mods, reputation still intact.
Look at John Felstead's car, very cool why, cause we all know it's very quick, close ratio box, adjustable centre diff. It's not slammed, big drainpipe exhaust, fat ***** surf shack stickers, neons, 19's. It's been kept simple, reputation still intact.
I think the STi7 still has it's reputation.
Look after yours the right way and you can have a Scooby with it's reputation .. well IMO anyway.
Doofus.
21 January 2003, 04:28 PM
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wagons will always rule anyhow! 
i am doubful that they have the same rep, in spite of above comments, i still get the "what is it" which if i was a p1 owner et al, i am doubtful would occur.
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[Edited by mista weava - 1/21/2003 4:30:28 PM]
i am doubful that they have the same rep, in spite of above comments, i still get the "what is it" which if i was a p1 owner et al, i am doubtful would occur.
weava
[Edited by mista weava - 1/21/2003 4:30:28 PM]
21 January 2003, 05:07 PM
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STI's are fast in any language. They are just too common today, everyone knows about them and so they are perceived as boring. The new shape and the reduced power didn't help either.
Old shape is best and faster (STI/P1).
Old shape is best and faster (STI/P1).
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