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Old 13 January 2003, 11:11 PM
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> We are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer.
>
> Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent,
> united action.
>
> This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain
> day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil
> companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue
> to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an
> inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
>
> BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
> really work. Please read it and join in! By now you're probably
> thinking petrol priced at about 77p a litre is super cheap. Me too! It
> is currently 79p - 83p for regular unleaded in some towns.
>
> Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to
> think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP at 77p -80p, we need to take
> aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the
> marketplace.... not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more
> each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going
> to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the
> pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT
> hurting ourselves.
>
> How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol.
> But we CAN have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to
> force a price war.
>
> Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol
> from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.
> If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce
> their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will
> have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally
> millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now,
> don't whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain
> how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
>
> I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it
> to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at
> least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the
> message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached
> over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and
> pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
> been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... ..
> THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
>
> Again,all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and
> not buy at ESSO/BP) (If you don't understand how we can reach 300
> million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people.... well,
> let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. But I am... so trust
> me on this
> one.)
>
> How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to
> ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people
> could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you
> didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting
> together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please
> pass this message on.
>
>
> PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE
>
>
> Action:
> It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your
petrol
> at Shell, Tesco, Sainsburys, Jet etc. i.e. boycott BP and Esso
>
>
>
>
>
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Old 14 January 2003, 12:25 AM
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ooh ooh, can I say it?

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erm yeah, great plan btw
Old 14 January 2003, 12:33 AM
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PMSL @ Bob T
Old 14 January 2003, 12:33 AM
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This appears every once in a while on email mostly

but no-one actually ever does anything about it

Old 14 January 2003, 12:34 AM
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Fight the power man!
Old 14 January 2003, 08:56 AM
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What some people don't understand is that the oil companies don't actually make that much money from petrol !!...more from the shop on the forecourt and the car washes !!...it's the GOVERMENT that TAXES the petrol !! Oil companies (the one i work for) make about 3.5p per litre...out of that comes all the exploration/salarys/garages etc etc...85%of it is TAX which goes to the GOVERMENT ! so you are hurting the oil company but they're taking the hit from the GOVERMENT...ant they're the ones who get all the money no matter who you buy your fuel from. if the GOVERMENT reduced the tax by 5-10% they petrol prices whould stay around the 71p area......i rest my case....even though i'm sure a lot of you are goung to have your pennies worth !! LOL
Old 14 January 2003, 09:13 AM
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^ that's what I was gonna say but couldn't be arsed In fact I'd go as far as to say some firms lose money on fuel, it's the government that need a kick in the nuts[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

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Old 14 January 2003, 09:22 AM
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Have people like this completely failed to realise is that the massive increases in petrol prices since Tony's cronies came along is virtually all additional taxation.

Despite that, and all the other taxes they've applied, the Hospitals/Schools/Roads etc are ****

Josh
Old 14 January 2003, 09:36 AM
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Someone agree's with me....thanks Bob.T !

as for the roads and schools your right as well....

I've been over to Spain on my motorbike and the French roads are fantastic..no pot holes...quieter....a shear pleasure !.....bet they cost half the price we pay over here as well !!!
Old 14 January 2003, 09:40 AM
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"If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt"

Everyone gets hacked off with receiving more borrocks in their inbox...
Old 14 January 2003, 09:51 AM
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Actually the refineries used by Tesco Sainsbry's etc are often BP supplied so that could hold a floor in your scheme!

Also if we are gonna do this properly we need to (and I never thought I would say this), think like the Americans. Last year when this happen the UK took a soft approach with the above mentioned 'not on a Tuesday' type approach. In the good ol' US they just stopped going to work (point blank refused!). In doing this the G'ovt had to act or the nation would have come to a grinding halt!

The power is in the people! there are 60-65 million of us and only a few thousand oil refinery employees............................catch my drift?

If we really got our act together, adopting the same methods of revolt as the Yanks, then Blair and his band of not so merry men would be forced to lower fuel tax to maintain the price equilibrium. This way even the Oil companies could still obtain their meesily 2/3% take from the fuel charge, and only the Government would be forced to stop taking the ****!!
Old 14 January 2003, 10:09 AM
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Did I not read that if the petrol companies took nothing for the fuel that the tax we pay would mean that we would still be paying more than other countries?
And do I not remember the /hand wringing/earnest face/concerned voice/ PM "we need the tax or we will have no hospitals and no schools..."
Funny how he forgot to mention the 40% pay rise for him and his cronies at the time.
We have the same or worse services with more tax, just this week our local council announces an increase of 16.6% in council tax due to the reduction in the central grant.
Old 14 January 2003, 10:12 AM
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Esso is Exxon Mobil Corp.
BP is BP Amoco.

They are not the same company
Old 14 January 2003, 11:25 AM
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only way to hurt them is convert to gas
but who wants a scooby run on LPG
Old 14 January 2003, 12:06 PM
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Bush/Blair's spin doctors keep telling us that the war is NOT replated to Oil supplies as Iraq (and even Venezuela) have very little impact on world supplies.

So, why the **** are they increasing oil prices then?

Then OPEC announce that they're going to increase the supply from 23mb/d to 24.5mb/d to ensure sufficient supplies.

If there's enough oil being produced already and it's just OPEC that hold things back, WTF do we have to pay more for it

If it was just the usual supply/demand market forces then fair enough, but it appears like OPEC have power over both the supply and the demand and therefore can increase or decrease the price of crude oil whenever the feel like it

Then the oil companies have to hike prices coz their margins are so thin and the government rakes in a fortune in tax revenue.

Stefan

[Edited by ozzy - 1/14/2003 12:07:30 PM]
Old 14 January 2003, 12:07 PM
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Recent OPEC press release

http://www.opec.org/NewsInfo/PressRe...3/PR2_2003.htm

Looks like Venezuela has a decent input, but there's no mention of Iraq, the UK or even the US

Stefan

[Edited by ozzy - 1/14/2003 12:09:12 PM]
Old 14 January 2003, 12:11 PM
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OK Iraq has about 2.5mb/d

But the UK and the USA aren't members of OPEC (there's just 11 members).

Stefan
Old 14 January 2003, 12:16 PM
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But the UK and the USA aren't members of OPEC (there's just 11 members).
That's because cartels are illegal in the UK and I assume also in the USA.
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