ChristianR

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Mods please can you leave this here for a couple of hours - thanks

One of my collegues bought a pc from an ebay auction.

The company (aroms) auction off pc's that are quite good spec for quite good money (still talking 700+ pounds). They can slightly change the spec as well, so you could say they build a machine for you.

At the time they mostly were selling goods on Ebay, however we cannot see anymore from the same user. However, they do have a website: www.aroms.biz

The money for the pc was paid by cheque back in November - and the company has been giving excuses saying next week etc. They are now not returning his emails, and the phone never seems to answer.

I was wondering if anyone is close to either of the following addresses, to see if they are infact real or fake? One address is in London, the other is in The Netherlands.

UK Office
Aroms
95 Wilton Road
Suite 3
London, SW1V 1BZ
United Kingdom
Phone: +44 (70) 9235 2342
Fax: +44 (70) 9239 1867
email : sales@aroms.biz
web : www.aroms.biz

Dutch Office
Aroms
De Wurdze 10
8561 JD Balk
The Netherlands
Phone : +31 (514) 603379
Fax: + 31 (514) 604633
email : sales@aroms.biz
web : www.aroms.biz

If you could let me know on your findings, and if you know any more information please kindly forward it on.

Many thanks,
Christian

carl

As I explain on the equivalent thread on 22B.com, that London address is a Mailboxes, etc. virtual forwarding address.

Chrisgr31

Well I have doubts about the quality of their website, American spellings etc. Also their address is very near Victoria Station I think, and I suspect it is serviced offices, but might be wrong.

I'd have a look at the Companies House website if I were you, and I'd think about contacting the Police or the Local Trading Standards.

Chris

dosenöffner

eBay have a department for this kind of thing also. They do not take fraud kindly and do reimburse for lose in certain cases. They will then tackle the offender themselves if you are unable to resolve it.

It's worked for me before.

Baby Blue

I have just had a look on Companies House - sorry mate there not a limited company by the name of Aroms.

If it is a Partnership or Individual, there will be not official record of them, unless you know a friendly Tax Inspector in London who might be able to check.

Good luck

BB

janne248

Visual Route 5.1C returned this on thw www-address:


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Domain Name.......... affinity.com
Creation Date........ 2000-01-08
Registration Date.... 2001-02-16
Expiry Date.......... 2008-01-08
Organisation Name.... Affinity Internet Inc.
Organisation Address. 101 Continental Boulevard, 3rd Floor
Organisation Address. _
Organisation Address. El Segundo
Organisation Address. 90245
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Affinity Internet, Inc .
Admin Address........ 101 Continental Boulevard, 3rd floor
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ El Segundo
Admin Address........ 90245
Admin Address........ CA
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... domains@affinity.com
Admin Phone.......... 310 524 3000
Admin Fax............ 310 388 1335

Tech Name............ Affinity Internet, Inc. -Support, Technical
Tech Address......... 101 Continental Boulevard, 3rd floor
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... El Segundo
Tech Address......... 90245
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... contact@ahnet.net
Tech Phone........... 310 524 3000
Tech Fax............. 310 388 1335
Name Server.......... ns1.affinity.com
Name Server.......... ns2.affinity.com
Name Server.......... ns3.affinity.com


The previous information has been obtained either directly from the
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VeriSign, therefore, does not guarantee its accuracy or completeness.

Alas

Sad this.
I got a pc from ebay last year from a company which sounds similar in type to this one. Called, emailed, faxed wrote to them after I had not rec'd it after 3 weeks.
Started to worry so really made a pain of myself and told them I would send some friends around to pick it up. This seemed to work & I rec'd the goods. When I tried to contact them 2 weeks later for some info they had gone. I don't know whether bust or done a runner. The PC was part of a Dutch auction which I have since found out are dodgy as its a good way to get lots of cash in at once & then disappear.
Hope your m8 does'nt lose out.
Alasdair

RLE

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Christian,

95 Wilton Road is a residential address. Check for Voters Roll information. Cant go into any detail due to Data Protection restrictions.

Hope this helps.

bobfrog1

Did a search for 95 Wilton Road on google, there are other business at that address, you could give one of them a call..


BooksellerDavid Campbell and Trudy Cutts)Londonline Books
Address: Suite 53, 95 Wilton Road, London. SW1V 1BZ.
Email: mail@londonlinebooks.co.ukmail@londonlinebooks.co. uk
Phone #: (0)20 7976 6670

MarkCSC

If you do a Look up on www.goodrouters.com (mentioned above)you get this.

Administrative Contact:
EMMANUEL AIGBEHI
Phone: 31-514603379
E-mail: aigbehi@euronet.nl

RobinSherwood

As Carl has already said the London address is a Mailboxes etc.,.. shop

http://www.mbe.uk.com/service_centres/regional_listings/London/london_main.htm#026

This is basically a private PO Box address so the company will not physically be there.

It might be worth speaking to the manager of this branch of Mailboxes to see if Arom have a long term contract for their mailbox or just one or twoo months. The Mailboxes shop in Marylebone is very helpful so worth a go.

Good luck

Robin

stef555

The adress exists, But the company i can't find

Grts. Stefan

David_Wallis

speak to burr??

David

Michael Robinson

just for satisfaction we could just destroy there site !

Michael Robinson

if you feel the site is fake or misleading you can call there ISP and ask it be taken off and they may even be able to contact details (if the police get involved). There ISP/SERVER IP address is 207.150.221.95, i will look to see if this is an ISP for you.

Scoob99

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Christian,
May I suggest you get in touch with the nearest main sorting office to that area, I beleive it to be Paddington, but I could be wrong, I work for Royal Mail as a postman, and the main sorting office should have a full address for these people, I am off work at the Moment, otherwise one of my friends could have traced the address, mail me offline with some more details and I'll have a word with my friend who is in the I.B. (post office police we call them).
Cheers
Colin

Michael Robinson

a comopany called http://www.Winsave.com host there webpage for them.

carl

Why would the Post Office know their real address? The post office are not providing the virtual mailbox (PO Box) -- Mailboxes, etc. are

Scoob99

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When the mail is sorted, it goes into the said P.O.box and the address is held on computer for their records and for any problems that may arise, had a simular problem myself gave my mate the P.O. box number and he got me the address in about 30 secs.
Cheers
Colin

carl

It's not a PO Box. It's a mailbox provided by a company called "Mailboxes, etc."

They will be the only people with a record of the company's whereabouts, as they know where they'll be sending the mail. Are you suggesting they inform the Post Office of the details of each of their customers?

Scoob99

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Ok I'll have a word and see what information we have on them.
Cheers
Colin

ChristianR

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any updates? anyone know a website where I can look up his name and get his home telephone number? or anyone in that area could look in the phone book and email me the details?

Michael Robinson

like i said get intouch with his ISP (which i posted earlier) then have details for him.

Michael Robinson

i have emailed there sales email address and got a reply, so someone is still running things there. only really help i can give you would be to sobotage there site, but the could be reprocutions.

ChristianR

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is that the aroms.biz one?

Michael Robinson

yeah i could sabotage that if you really wanted, only problem is it would probably come back on me. You could ask there ISP (look at my previous posts) to take thme off and they will.

Jerome

I'm often near Wilton Road. I could pop in and see if they divulge the forwarding address if you like.

I'm sure if it was this easy to disguise your real address, they would have changed the law by now. This is why the Post Office now release the full address of any PO Box on request.

ChristianR

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be good if you could thanks.

Foot_Tapper

this is also listed at same address

STOFFEL'S CONCEPTION
Wilton Road, Suite 3 95, SW1V 1BZ London
United Kingdom
Telefon: 0044 (0)70 92 37 83 58, Telefax: 0044 (0)70 92 37 83 59

http://www.stoffelsconception.com

ChristianR

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Many thanks for all the replies and information.