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Old 28 November 2002, 02:06 PM
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Right, bit of a rant here.


Ok, I like going to trackdays to spectate, cos I'm a wimp and won't put my car on track. Mainly as the movit brakes would allow me to outbrake the lot of ya (just an ickle joke! the truth is the wheels would probably fall off! ).

Whilst there I may partake in a little passenger action, which is great fun. I;ve been out a few times with some chaps (Thanks Dom and DocJock) and it's been a laff.

Thing is, these days it seems that you have to pay to do passenger laps.

My question is. WHY?

Do clubs/tracks not make enough money from the paying drivers?

Why should I pay money to a car club/track for the privelege of being a passenger in my friends car? Yes, I'd gladly give the 5 or 10 quid to my mate to cover fuel and wear and tear, but that's me giving money to a mate. Why should I give it to a track/club, it's not thier car is it?

Sorry to rant, but I'm just curious.

next they'll be charging to spectate!

[Edited by Markus - 11/28/2002 2:14:53 PM]
Old 28 November 2002, 02:16 PM
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Do clubs/tracks not make enough money from the paying drivers?
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Old 28 November 2002, 02:29 PM
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Also by filling out and signing the "I am a passanger for the day" form the same as the driver you admit you're aware of the risks and won't sue the organisers in case of accident and injury.
Old 28 November 2002, 02:37 PM
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exactly. So I'm well aware of the risks of being a passenger.
Old 28 November 2002, 02:39 PM
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cheepscate!

I have never taken a penny off anyone for sitting with me on track.

If they didnt charge, i would have to pay more to the organisors to be able to give you a free ride.

It's only £10, that doesnt even pay for one brake pad!
Old 28 November 2002, 02:45 PM
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John,
am not a cheapskate! well, maybe sometimes

As said, wanted to hear good reasons, and you've given one. And fair enough point. No-one I've been out with has ever asked for payment, but I have offered, just no-one has accepted, and no, did not offer because I knew it would no be accepted.
Old 28 November 2002, 03:51 PM
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I'd pay £20 to sit next to John F, and that's before he starts moving

PS can I have a ride John?

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Old 28 November 2002, 04:04 PM
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sure, join the queue Floyd.

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Old 28 November 2002, 04:06 PM
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Will bribery get me to the top of the queue John?
Old 28 November 2002, 04:14 PM
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depends what the bribe is Sal.
Old 28 November 2002, 04:18 PM
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Markus do you squeek when you walk?

....tighter than a cat ****!
Old 28 November 2002, 04:21 PM
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image doctor. No I don't squeak! you cheeky sod (notice the lack of a smiley!)

It's NOT the money, 10 quid aint much. It's the principle of the thing. Don't see why I should pay a club/track money to ride in my friends car. But as jf said, it would mean his costs would be higher.
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lol! no smilie
Old 28 November 2002, 04:37 PM
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Old 28 November 2002, 04:54 PM
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Markus,

Perhaps it's a nominal charge to cover the cost of filing the form, supplying the form and wrist band? Also, the track probably has some sort of insurance which you will then be contributing towards and even the possible cost of supplying marshal/ambulance services in the event that you are in a car that has an incident.

Don't really know but perhaps educated guesses?

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Old 28 November 2002, 04:57 PM
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Good point Matt. As said, looking for valid reasons why.

Oh and grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr at your cheapskate comment
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lol!
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He's on about paying the track, not paying the driver.

Markus, my guess is it's a legal thing (as hinted above) - if you have a contract with them you will be covered under their insurance: no payment = no contract = no insurance cover = lots of fun and arguments for the lawyers if you get injured.

Or yeah, could be they just want more money
Old 28 November 2002, 05:49 PM
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Cats bottom (LOL) - I though this too, but then decided it was for the tea and biscuits and bogroll on site. Drink plenty of tea and take a laxative to get your moneysworth
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He's on about paying the track, not paying the driver.
Thanks for that revelation.

read the replies again.
Old 28 November 2002, 06:20 PM
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john...my birthday tomorrow too

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