Fuel Economy
#2
Is it normal to get around 210miles from a tank in a 99 Turbo? I've been doing some sums and i'm filling up every 6 days, sometimes more frequent as I use the car to go to work, I dont want to give the car up but £250 a month in petrol alone is getting a tad expensive what with other outgoings, is it my lead foot or are they just like this, anyone got any ideas to increase fuel economy? would a boost controller help? could I turn the boost down? or would the car run lumpy or would the ecu sort it out so it didnt?
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I usually get around 250 in my MY96 per tank. However, you have to be a bit gentle with the right foot!
Have you checked the oxygen sensor - high fuel consumption is a symptom of a problem with this IIRC.
(Although it is usually excessively high...)
[Edited by dnb - 10/30/2002 2:27:20 PM]
Have you checked the oxygen sensor - high fuel consumption is a symptom of a problem with this IIRC.
(Although it is usually excessively high...)
[Edited by dnb - 10/30/2002 2:27:20 PM]
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210 doesnt sound too unreasonable to me. depends on your type of driving. I generally get about 250 per tank based on several fairly short journeys. can get nearly 300 on a long motorway run at sensible speeds. sounds like your right foot is possibly a bit enthusiastic!!! but then , that is why you bought the car in the first place I guess.
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Sounds perfectly reasonable to me ....
However, I run mostly on Optimax but a few months back I switched back to normal SUL and mpg increased markedly so you might want to try that
Didn't last for too long though before it went back to around between 150 - 210 miles per tankful , so back to optimax it was
However, I run mostly on Optimax but a few months back I switched back to normal SUL and mpg increased markedly so you might want to try that
Didn't last for too long though before it went back to around between 150 - 210 miles per tankful , so back to optimax it was
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recently i've been getting 180 miles per tank...
lowest i've ever had it is 140miles per tank (car in modded form)
highest is 250miles per tank (car in standard form)
lowest i've ever had it is 140miles per tank (car in modded form)
highest is 250miles per tank (car in standard form)
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TIP: if you want really good economy from the scoob; fill up at your local petrol station then drive home like a grandad, park car and leave on drive for six months - the fuel last 'kin ages
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I can get up to 300 on Motorway taking it very steady (MY97). Usually see 250. Last two tank fulls have been with optimax and only saw 220, with no improvement over SUL from Esso.
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yup, indeed, i was going to keep it for 3 years while i didnt have a mortgage and then get something more practical later but I doubt i'll beable to sell it, i've already got used to having it about too much!
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The earlier cars like mine (MY96UK) have a bigger turbo so it comes in later (3,000rpm-ish) so if I drive lightly (below 3,000rpm) I can get 320milrs from a tank all motorway..
I found optimax gave better MPG, although using Esso when there is no Optimax seems to get better again and then better when I return to Optimax etc.,. I think it get used to the fuel and MPG gets less..?
My weekly small comute used more fuel though.. stop start etc drinks the fuel.. down to about 200miles per tank when I don't car about economy and no motorway work etc..
I hear the earthing/grounding mod can give slightly better fuel economy, I am about to do such mod..
Just try running it under 3,000rpm for a bit.. although it is boring but I would rather do that on occassions and keep the car than have to sell it..
JGM
I found optimax gave better MPG, although using Esso when there is no Optimax seems to get better again and then better when I return to Optimax etc.,. I think it get used to the fuel and MPG gets less..?
My weekly small comute used more fuel though.. stop start etc drinks the fuel.. down to about 200miles per tank when I don't car about economy and no motorway work etc..
I hear the earthing/grounding mod can give slightly better fuel economy, I am about to do such mod..
Just try running it under 3,000rpm for a bit.. although it is boring but I would rather do that on occassions and keep the car than have to sell it..
JGM
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Sounds right to me.. I normaly get 210 - 225 out of a tank.
Worst ever was 170 ... Great fun getting it that low though :> Iv'e heard of Track Day antics getting it down to 9mpg
Worst ever was 170 ... Great fun getting it that low though :> Iv'e heard of Track Day antics getting it down to 9mpg
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put £25 of optimax in the other day got 125 miles driving carefully borrowed my mates evo5 once put £25 of optimax in it and only got about 80 miles out of it driving carefully so i am happy with 125
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Simmo2,
Apparently the earthing on the car as standard is not very good and can deteriate with time..
So you run wires from the battery -ve terminal to suspesion top and to inlet manifold.. so to earth the engine and the body to the battery better..
Some say it runs smoother and gives better MPG as the ECU has better signals from the engines sensors as there is less noise on the signals etc.. especially if the original earthing is old and deteriating..
For the price a three bits of 18inch long wire and connectors seems a good mod to risk it giving no gain.. something like -ive terminal to passenger suspension top mount.. from passenger suspension top mount to inlet manifold.. and from drivers side suspension top to inlet manifold (although I cannot see the need for this one..)
JGM
Apparently the earthing on the car as standard is not very good and can deteriate with time..
So you run wires from the battery -ve terminal to suspesion top and to inlet manifold.. so to earth the engine and the body to the battery better..
Some say it runs smoother and gives better MPG as the ECU has better signals from the engines sensors as there is less noise on the signals etc.. especially if the original earthing is old and deteriating..
For the price a three bits of 18inch long wire and connectors seems a good mod to risk it giving no gain.. something like -ive terminal to passenger suspension top mount.. from passenger suspension top mount to inlet manifold.. and from drivers side suspension top to inlet manifold (although I cannot see the need for this one..)
JGM
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Thanks jgm2 for that good explanation and as you say cheap as well.
Just for the record i average between 250-300 miles in my 95 wagon.
Use to and from work every day across country about 80 miles a day.
I can go via motorway but adds 20 miles to journey and is boring.
I Had a ford mondildo before twas a bit of a shock but then so was the performance.
Simmo2
Thanks jgm2 for that good explanation and as you say cheap as well.
Just for the record i average between 250-300 miles in my 95 wagon.
Use to and from work every day across country about 80 miles a day.
I can go via motorway but adds 20 miles to journey and is boring.
I Had a ford mondildo before twas a bit of a shock but then so was the performance.
Simmo2
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Miles per tank is a pretty crude measure.... Not all tanks are the same size; not all red lights come on at the same time, and some owners are braver than others when it does....
I'm sad enough to have kept a pretty good tag on what I've had in the way of economy.
ALL "progressive everyday driving, mixed roads"
MY 99 Wagon 25 mpg
MY 00 wagon 25 mpg
MY 00 wagon /optimax - 26.5mpg
STiUK/Optimax. 22.5 on a good day, AFTER the car had loosened up.
25 mpg is almost EXACTLY 5.5 Miles per Litre, which makes the mental arithmetic easy(ier)!
But, yes, if you're an enthusiast, you can certainly get it lower (tho' I've never been able to get it much higher )
Cheers
Phil
I'm sad enough to have kept a pretty good tag on what I've had in the way of economy.
ALL "progressive everyday driving, mixed roads"
MY 99 Wagon 25 mpg
MY 00 wagon 25 mpg
MY 00 wagon /optimax - 26.5mpg
STiUK/Optimax. 22.5 on a good day, AFTER the car had loosened up.
25 mpg is almost EXACTLY 5.5 Miles per Litre, which makes the mental arithmetic easy(ier)!
But, yes, if you're an enthusiast, you can certainly get it lower (tho' I've never been able to get it much higher )
Cheers
Phil
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Scoobies do not have fuel economy They have fuel consumption.
On my bugeye at a steady 70mph (well maybe 75 on a private road), you can get mid-low 30s MPG. I think. Never managed it for more than 200 miles (on half a tank ) without getting bored and booting it across a twisty road or something.
On my bugeye at a steady 70mph (well maybe 75 on a private road), you can get mid-low 30s MPG. I think. Never managed it for more than 200 miles (on half a tank ) without getting bored and booting it across a twisty road or something.