dingy

Watched some track time at donington yesterday....

Saw a new WRX get beat on track by a Mondeo ST220....

Very impressed by how much the mondeo pulled past the wrx down the straight at donington.....

And you lot slag FORD off all day......

mista weava

take it to the b-roads...

co55ie

LOL No surprise there or at the reply.

LG John

Modified?? I could keep up with these in a straight line in the VTS so I suspect it would have to be to pass a wrx in the striaghts?!

Big Goon

He said ST220, not ST24 or ST200, they have only just been released.

PeterUK300

iTrader: (1)

From Fords Brochure Ford ST220
3.0ltr V6 24V Duratec ST Engine
Max Speed 142 mph
0-62 7.4 secs
226 PS 275NM Torque

LG John

I knew that, I was just testing you

Type_RA

I dotn think many fleet reps get their hands on an ST220 its normally a 1.8LX or diesel. Its all about badge at fleet/rep mental level and you can get a base model BMW for the price of an ST220 .

My dad has a Mondy Ghia X 2.5 V6 (170bhp ST24 engine) and I must admit its a lovely drive and eats miles does nearly 40mpg on a run as well. Best bit it was a great price second hand and has ALL the toys, he is still finding buttons and has 250 page user guide LOL. I would have one as a runabout if I could afford to insure one as well as he scoob.

Cheers

Chris

Mark Jackson

Clarkson had a Mondeo V6 and said that it was almost as fast point to point as his 355 !


Hmm

Beemer_Deano

Is that the same "you lot" that wouldn't know that an ST220, whilst still a quick car, is over a second slower 0-60, and 2 seconds slower 0-100 than even a humble WRX?

Maybe the scoob driver couldn't drive, or just couldn't be arsed?

Or is it just that this is hoping to stir people up?

Cheers,

Deano

Edited cos I can't type....

[Edited by Beemer_Deano - 9/9/2002 10:35:59 PM]

Pavlo

Haven't we been here before?

Shocking indeed.

Little Miss WRX

We certainly have and we will go there again and again and again and again adn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

dingy

Beemer deano - not a wind up.....

Sounded flat out to me....but yer can't help but defend it....

How can a car with more wheels to turn be faster BTW ??

220bhp rs turbo will do a 220bhp scoob in straight line.....


The radical was pretty poor also, yet another scoobynet member said "he wasn't trying"

Same response - I was there were you

AND YER CAN'T COMPARE A 911 TO A MONDEO..... SO


[Edited by dingy - 9/9/2002 11:04:42 PM]

Beemer_Deano

I'm not arguing with whether you saw it, I'm debating whether this sort of crap is really worth posting about....... again......

Maybe it's heavier? Maybe it's got different gearing? I'm sure you can think of loads more.

Both manufacturers figures show the WRX to be a faster car - backed by countless tests. Given that, all we can argue about is was the modeo driver a better driver, was he less bothered about ******** his car, did he have mods..... etc etc etc so what's the point?

Unless the point is yet another Ford vs Subaru vs BMW vs *insert latest fanboy marque here* flaming match? In which case, I'm not interested in getting into it oops

Deano

dingy

deano, the scoob has the better diff for acceration mate....

Hence the only reason it beats a cossie

Plus weight it pretty simular.

dingy

i just thought the st220 would get hammered by a wrx, sorry if yer think i was being a ****....was shocked.

The st 220 aint a sports car.

Pavlo

Also worth mentioning the st220 has no turbo lag, pretty fat torque curve, and no 4wd losses.

ALSO worth mentioning is the WRX comes with crap RE11 tyres or whatever, whereas the ST220 comes with Continental Sport Contacts, the very same tyre that EVO magasine said had the highest levels of out and out dry grip. And 5mph more out of a corner is 5mph more all down the straight.

Lowered suspension, 18" alloys, big brakes. The ST220 is pretty well sorted I think.

Paul

mattstant

was at Toyota track day and standards of driving were poles apart
i had a go in the celica and thought i was the bee knees canning it and over taking other drivers easily .

then the instructor took me for a spin and made it look like i was driving backwards.

so how the **** can you judge who was pushing what and who had the ability standing watching ????

TAZMAN

Yawn.....

co55ie

Th scooby would undoubtedly be quicker off the mark than the st220 but when rolling it would be pretty even I would have thought. The new scoobies are not exactly rapid out of the box

Broadmoor

Reel em in dingy..

RichardPON

LMAO @ this post.

Dingy, yours must be rapid, cos it's got no wheels to turn

LG John

OMG a well contructed non-biased point from co55ie.....he's a changed man