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Old 02 July 2001, 11:15 PM
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I think it is:

Leda suspension
upgraded sway bars and sway bar links
bumpsteer mod
AP 6-Pot kit and brake support bracket
18" OZ P1 wheels with Pirelli P Zero competition (225-35-18)

....interesting to read what you think about it?

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Old 02 July 2001, 11:42 PM
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the 'ultimate' setup will probably vary a bit, depending on the track.

surely slicks would figure on the list - made a big difference at bedford
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Old 02 July 2001, 11:59 PM
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Leda not even close enough to 'ultimate', and surely it would be 19's, slicks and some wild camber

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Old 03 July 2001, 07:57 AM
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Kryten,
Pirelli P Zero competition tires are slicks (Intermediates).

Ian,
what is close enough to ultimate? I thought Leda was absolutely the best money can buy? 19" slicks....oh man, that could be expensive.....

Kos,
The bumpsteer mod is from Powerstation and is well known to remove the understeer of the Scooby.

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Old 03 July 2001, 08:08 AM
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The Pirelli P Zero C is a treaded tyre, not a slick - (and a slick is not an intermediate....).

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Old 03 July 2001, 08:42 AM
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I would have said DMS or Bilstein would have been a better choice than Leda.

But its how the car feels to you, i wouldn't change my bilsteins for leda at all....

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Old 03 July 2001, 09:39 AM
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Why ain't anyone discassing about the Camber degree, Toe setting, ride height, tire pressure, spring rates etc... I thought these are "setup", which are supposed to be the most important part.

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Old 03 July 2001, 09:59 AM
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Just fitted Leda - so it's all been done
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Old 03 July 2001, 10:36 AM
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The ultimate track suspension (whether it was built by Leda or anyone else) would be almost undriveable on the road.

My RA has BTCC spec (lightweight short tubes, high bump, low rebound rates) Leda's using 700lb springs. It is just staggering on the track (sorry Dingy, wouldn't swap it for your Bilsteins ) but it is far too compromised for fast road use.

And with the geometry and ride heights correctly set for the suspension location points and roll centre geometry of the car, you don't need to shim the rack (bumpsteer).

I've just got some 18" Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tyres to try. These are C rated, road legal, cut slicks and are meant to be 2 seconds quicker around Snetterton (same car) than a Pzero C, with better wear rates. We shall see

For the best track set up, You'll never beat a full slick.
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Old 03 July 2001, 10:38 AM
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Oh... and the Impreza running the Leda race set up in the Irish race series is winning the lot.

We've just supplied his main rival now as well
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Dave T-S,
sorry I am not the absolute specialist in tires. But the Pirelli Zero C gave me almost the grip level of a slick I think.

Pete,
my Scoob has now Koni adjustable dampers (yellow) and Apex lowering springs. The weekend I drove at a so called "slalom race" in Switzerland. They built a good track on an airport with "pylones". I was very unhappy with my setup, lots of body roll and understeer. Now I am looking for a setup, that gives me the ability to corner like mad. Could you provide me with such a setup? I use the car on track, at "slalom races" and on the road. But my aim is performance on the track!

greetings and thanks for any information
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I think the scary thing is, you apply those principles to "cheap" hot hatches and you have cars which will be substantially quicker round a track than a Scoob/Cossie with road Ledas etc etc.

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moved to suspension
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I'm confused
What is 'bumpsteer'??

Cheers

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