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Old 20 April 2023, 08:20 PM
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Hi All! As above, cranks over but doesn't fire. Question: can anyone tell me if the immobiliser was on would it still crank..this being a MY2000. Thanks!
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I believe for a MY2000 UK car you have 2 immobilisers
1. OEM Immobiliser - key transponder chip working in conjunction with Immobiliser ECU and Engine ECU (Red Key Symbol on dash)
2. If still fitted - Sigma Alarm - Possibly 2 immobiliser circuits present, usually fuel pump cut out and/or starter motor circuit.

If a key's transponder signal is not recognized by the ECU or is not present, say using a nonchipped cut key or a cut STI Titanium key, you can usually turn the engine over but it will fail to start.
Red key light on dash will stay illuminated?

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Old 20 April 2023, 10:39 PM
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Thanks Don! It's currently at my bro's place a few miles away and I wont be seeing to it for a couple of day so was wanting to go prepared with a bit of knowledge.
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Just to confirm that if the immobiliser hasn't been deactivated, you get the flashing red light and it won't crank - it's a dead key turn.

My own 2000MY was suffering badly with the radio mast issue last year which was making the car undriveable , so I had the OEM Sigma removed and a new car 1 immobiliser alarm fitted. The other issue I had with it not starting 5 years ago was fixed by Subaru who had a known dry solder issue on the control unit which meant that the fuel pump circuit was dead.

Good luck!
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Don't think it's the ecu is linked up with the key on 1999-2000 models, only on earlier models. On the 1999-2000 models you can swap ecu's around workout coding new ecu in. But I think the module is separate on those models not linked to ecu.


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I believe for a MY2000 UK car you have 2 immobilisers
1. OEM Immobiliser - key transponder chip working in conjunction with Immobiliser ECU and Engine ECU (Red Key Symbol on dash)
2. If still fitted - Sigma Alarm - Possibly 2 immobiliser circuits present, usually fuel pump cut out and/or starter motor circuit.

If a key's transponder signal is not recognized by the ECU or is not present, say using a nonchipped cut key or a cut STI Titanium key, you can usually turn the engine over but it will fail to start.
Red key light on dash will stay illuminated?
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Thanks everyone who helped! Panic over, my Bro was using the unchipped (emergency get out of jail) key... Phew!
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