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Old 08 February 2022, 10:20 PM
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Hi all,

My forged 2007 STi has the standard turbo on it. It's Bob Rawle mapped, and the turbo has done 100k miles.

My PSi 3 has just read 1.51 bar max boost. Is that pretty healthy? Should I be on nearer 1.8 bar?

Old 08 February 2022, 11:36 PM
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probably more helpful , how much bhp have you ? so is turbo maxd out and is engine in the correct bhp for what’s been done to it mods wise ? , for me even forged i would be max 400 bhp on an engine as i want reliability too , but even 400 bhp can kill them 👍
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1.5 bar on a standard (non-forged) 2.5 isn't a figure I'd be comfortable with.
I don't think the VF43 can be pushed to 1.8 bar?!
Old 09 February 2022, 11:21 AM
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If it's the standard turbo it sounds correct to me. I think you'll only have a 3bar map sensor so if you're still on a standard sensor then you shouldn't run over 1.6 bar anyway.
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Yes standard 2 port BCS, and 342bhp with 410ft lb's
I never had it remapped after it's second build, there's a lot of lag low down which isn't right for a mapped 2.5
My previous build was not laggy at all.

Hopefully map check / tweak later this month. Recent MAF as old one was giving poor readings, but been laggy a while now, long before the new MAF.
Standard airbox / filter / injectors etc.

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I’d definitely have the map checked. If it’s still laggy then maybe get it smoke tested in case you have a small boost leak. Also definitely worth changing maf as they do fail.
does it have tgv’s?
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Originally Posted by adam.pah
I’d definitely have the map checked. If it’s still laggy then maybe get it smoke tested in case you have a small boost leak. Also definitely worth changing maf as they do fail.
does it have tgv’s?
MAF was changed with a brand new genuine one just a few weeks ago. Yes, TGV's still in the inlet manifold I think. I don't hear any escaping air for a boost leak though, but I should get it tested. Fingers crossed it just needs a map tweak.

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I’ve had sticky tgv’s before which obviously causes a restriction. Your mapper will be able to check that though.

it sounds like it just needs a proper map. Every time I do anything to mine I have it mapped.
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Reading the comments it sounds like you had a rebuild but didn’t get it mapped afterwards. If that’s the case then I’d get it done asap
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Correct, 15k miles ago it was rebuilt but never mapped.
My old build was mapped, so running on same map as no other changes to anything else like injectors, airbox, exhaust etc.


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Originally Posted by adam.pah
I’ve had sticky tgv’s before which obviously causes a restriction. Your mapper will be able to check that though.

it sounds like it just needs a proper map. Every time I do anything to mine I have it mapped.
Do Sti`s have them?
Id do some logs and fire them over to your mapper.
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I'm pretty sure mine does still have tgv's
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye D
I'm pretty sure mine does still have tgv's
I always thought up to 2008 models there were no tgv,s on Sti,s, my mistake.
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I can’t remember which cars have the TGV’s, I know the blob STi doesn’t but I’ve never had a hawk.

id always advise mapping after an engine is rebuilt, especially if it’s had to go up a piston size or different components used. Hopefully that will either fix the issue or highlight what’s going on.

another thing I had was a cracked up pipe. The blow was quite subtle but that made it laggy. Could check your headers and up pipe.

good luck with it and report back when you’ve resolved it
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when the UK/EU cars went 2.5 for MY06 then ALL cars reverted to TGV use with the addition of the air-pump system and the WRX losing the pre-catted up-pipe.........
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Originally Posted by adam.pah
I can’t remember which cars have the TGV’s, I know the blob STi doesn’t but I’ve never had a hawk.

id always advise mapping after an engine is rebuilt, especially if it’s had to go up a piston size or different components used. Hopefully that will either fix the issue or highlight what’s going on.

another thing I had was a cracked up pipe. The blow was quite subtle but that made it laggy. Could check your headers and up pipe.

good luck with it and report back when you’ve resolved it
Whole exhaust system is ok, no blows or leaks.

Yes I did have to go down one size on the Mahle pistons.
Reason being, my first build I had the block honed so needed the larger Mahle pistons. The car was then mapped accordingly.
4 years later that block cracked at the top of one of the cylinders.
During this first build, the secondary air pump was deleted, and throttle body coolant delete was done too.

So most recent build was a brand new block so in that build had to go back down a a size to fit the standard size Mahle's. Car never mapped / tweaked afterwards. I do sincerely hope that no damage has been done over the last 15k miles as a result of not having the map checked / tweaked.

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I hope for your sake there is no damage. Who rebuilt the engine out of interest? did they not recommend a map tweak? I don't really know enough about mapping to say if it needed a tweak or not, I just always get it done just in case.
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye D
Whole exhaust system is ok, no blows or leaks.

Yes I did have to go down one size on the Mahle pistons.
Reason being, my first build I had the block honed so needed the larger Mahle pistons. The car was then mapped accordingly.
4 years later that block cracked at the top of one of the cylinders.
During this first build, the secondary air pump was deleted, and throttle body coolant delete was done too.

So most recent build was a brand new block so in that build had to go back down a a size to fit the standard size Mahle's. Car never mapped / tweaked afterwards. I do sincerely hope that no damage has been done over the last 15k miles as a result of not having the map checked / tweaked.
Compression ratio will be different get it mapped asap and drive off boost until then.
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Compression ratio will be different get it mapped asap and drive off boost until then.
Hey Joe, I've been driving it around for 15k miles!
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye D
Hey Joe, I've been driving it around for 15k miles!
As per telephone conversation luckily enough your compression ratio must be down instead of up. Hence the reason for the sluggishness and the reason it has survived
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
As per telephone conversation luckily enough your compression ratio must be down instead of up. Hence the reason for the sluggishness and the reason it has survived
Also OSR handbrake shoes are dragging / binding....need to look at that tomorrow!
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Half an hour should sort that
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