modifying cars to be banned in the uk
11 November 2021, 03:34 PM
#1
modifying cars to be banned in the uk
what a great country this is turning out to be............
Drivers warned of new car modification rules as they risk fines of up to £300 (msn.com)
Drivers warned of new car modification rules as they risk fines of up to £300 (msn.com)
12 November 2021, 11:14 AM
#4
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It's just what the government want...stay at home, stay away from the NHS, lead dull lives.
Oh, but pay 1.25% more national insurance from April next year. Enjoy inflated fuel taxes and road taxes. Have a nice day Mr & Mrs Motorist.
Oh, but pay 1.25% more national insurance from April next year. Enjoy inflated fuel taxes and road taxes. Have a nice day Mr & Mrs Motorist.
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12 November 2021, 01:31 PM
#7
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At risk of upsetting people, I don't think this is entirely a bad idea for modification laws to be reviewed. Now hear me out.
There are loads of cheap and crappy mods out there, one look at ebay tells you all you need to know. Also think about how many times you hear of someone's XXR's exploding when hitting even the most minor pot holes. How do we know that those products are safe or fit for purpose? In most industries manufacturers are required to comply with certain standards in order to gain the official CE mark but this is not present on lots of aftermarket car parts.
These products are not safety tested to any standard so the companies can basically sell any old rubbish.
Now take a look at Germany where modifications are allowed but must be TUV approved, a way of providing proof that there are suitable for the use intended. This seems like a more sensible approach to me and puts the onus on the manufacturers to build a quality product.
So if the government decided to move towards certifying modifications (not banning them entirely), then I'd be in favour.
Okay, so I'm now ready for the onslaught!
There are loads of cheap and crappy mods out there, one look at ebay tells you all you need to know. Also think about how many times you hear of someone's XXR's exploding when hitting even the most minor pot holes. How do we know that those products are safe or fit for purpose? In most industries manufacturers are required to comply with certain standards in order to gain the official CE mark but this is not present on lots of aftermarket car parts.
These products are not safety tested to any standard so the companies can basically sell any old rubbish.
Now take a look at Germany where modifications are allowed but must be TUV approved, a way of providing proof that there are suitable for the use intended. This seems like a more sensible approach to me and puts the onus on the manufacturers to build a quality product.
So if the government decided to move towards certifying modifications (not banning them entirely), then I'd be in favour.
Okay, so I'm now ready for the onslaught!
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12 November 2021, 01:41 PM
#8
At risk of upsetting people, I don't think this is entirely a bad idea for modification laws to be reviewed. Now hear me out.
There are loads of cheap and crappy mods out there, one look at ebay tells you all you need to know. Also think about how many times you hear of someone's XXR's exploding when hitting even the most minor pot holes. How do we know that those products are safe or fit for purpose? In most industries manufacturers are required to comply with certain standards in order to gain the official CE mark but this is not present on lots of aftermarket car parts.
These products are not safety tested to any standard so the companies can basically sell any old rubbish.
Now take a look at Germany where modifications are allowed but must be TUV approved, a way of providing proof that there are suitable for the use intended. This seems like a more sensible approach to me and puts the onus on the manufacturers to build a quality product.
So if the government decided to move towards certifying modifications (not banning them entirely), then I'd be in favour.
Okay, so I'm now ready for the onslaught!
There are loads of cheap and crappy mods out there, one look at ebay tells you all you need to know. Also think about how many times you hear of someone's XXR's exploding when hitting even the most minor pot holes. How do we know that those products are safe or fit for purpose? In most industries manufacturers are required to comply with certain standards in order to gain the official CE mark but this is not present on lots of aftermarket car parts.
These products are not safety tested to any standard so the companies can basically sell any old rubbish.
Now take a look at Germany where modifications are allowed but must be TUV approved, a way of providing proof that there are suitable for the use intended. This seems like a more sensible approach to me and puts the onus on the manufacturers to build a quality product.
So if the government decided to move towards certifying modifications (not banning them entirely), then I'd be in favour.
Okay, so I'm now ready for the onslaught!
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12 November 2021, 03:51 PM
#10
You've only got to look at what's happening in the US with the EPA fining small tuners big money for selling products that are capable of bypassing emissions control systems, I think Brent at PFI Speed was hit with an $18k fine while the guy from Diesel Brothers was hit with a 6 figure fine. They appear to be targeting the smaller, independent resellers rather than companies like Holley and Haltech.
12 November 2021, 04:54 PM
#11
I think you have been lucky for a while in the UK with what kind of mods you can get away with, decat friendly garages that let you pass MOT without a functioning cat etc. Removing the catalytic converter has probably been forbidden since they first came in Sweden, with one exception of model year 88A which required the cat to still be fitted if the car had one from factory but the emissions requirements isn't as tough as for a 88B and forwards. Technically you can't even use an open blow off valve here as it counts as an open crankcase ventilation, it may cause a registration inspection which in worse case requires all mods to be removed and for the manufacturer to verify that everything is stock, which in most cases is impossible and resulting in a car that you no longer can use on the road. Fitting a FMIC can be enough too. You can register the car with another engine, gearbox and suspensions mods in combination with E85 but it's a lot of work.
But in many cases you can get away with some mods. You just have to be smart about it.
But in many cases you can get away with some mods. You just have to be smart about it.
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12 November 2021, 09:47 PM
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At risk of upsetting people, I don't think this is entirely a bad idea for modification laws to be reviewed. Now hear me out.
There are loads of cheap and crappy mods out there, one look at ebay tells you all you need to know. Also think about how many times you hear of someone's XXR's exploding when hitting even the most minor pot holes. How do we know that those products are safe or fit for purpose? In most industries manufacturers are required to comply with certain standards in order to gain the official CE mark but this is not present on lots of aftermarket car parts.
These products are not safety tested to any standard so the companies can basically sell any old rubbish.
Now take a look at Germany where modifications are allowed but must be TUV approved, a way of providing proof that there are suitable for the use intended. This seems like a more sensible approach to me and puts the onus on the manufacturers to build a quality product.
So if the government decided to move towards certifying modifications (not banning them entirely), then I'd be in favour.
Okay, so I'm now ready for the onslaught!
There are loads of cheap and crappy mods out there, one look at ebay tells you all you need to know. Also think about how many times you hear of someone's XXR's exploding when hitting even the most minor pot holes. How do we know that those products are safe or fit for purpose? In most industries manufacturers are required to comply with certain standards in order to gain the official CE mark but this is not present on lots of aftermarket car parts.
These products are not safety tested to any standard so the companies can basically sell any old rubbish.
Now take a look at Germany where modifications are allowed but must be TUV approved, a way of providing proof that there are suitable for the use intended. This seems like a more sensible approach to me and puts the onus on the manufacturers to build a quality product.
So if the government decided to move towards certifying modifications (not banning them entirely), then I'd be in favour.
Okay, so I'm now ready for the onslaught!
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12 November 2021, 11:21 PM
#14
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firstly it’s from the mirror who are left wing and often talk b……s , i can’t see it happening the modding market is worth billions every year the government won’t want to loose the tax from that , get your mods done now 😂😂😂
13 November 2021, 07:31 AM
#15
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No, not specifically. I would however like to see some regulation of the market. Maybe I’m getting old but my perspective is that some kind of regulation would improve safety and the quality of products available. I am not against modifying cars, far from it. I just think that enthusiasts deserve to know that what they are buying won’t fall apart after a week.
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13 November 2021, 07:33 AM
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13 November 2021, 10:12 AM
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OEM style discs / pads have to conform to reg90 approval in Europe albeit because of their higher performance there are a lot of good quality race style materials that can't / won't conform
this does allow certain spurious manufacturers a get out clause which is why we will only stock / supply the well established and proven brands
this does allow certain spurious manufacturers a get out clause which is why we will only stock / supply the well established and proven brands
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13 November 2021, 10:10 PM
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If anyone has issue with it, as I'm sure many will do, then the best thing to do is to take the time to respond to the consultation before it closes. I've already done it. It's a bit painful but at least our views will be documented even if they do end up being ignored.
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