Pulled the head off it (With pics)
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Pulled the head off it (With pics)
Well, heads plural, but you know..
I'd been getting symptoms of head gasket failure - the EJ257 was on 70k miles with a rebuild earlier in its life due to gasket failure at which point it got bearings, forged pistons, arp head studs, etc etc. Couple these symptoms with the slipping clutch from my other thread and it was time for the engine to come out.
Pulled the inlet manifold off, bit of a bugger of a job. Don't do it. This will go back on with TGV deletes to simplify things a bit and eek a few more horses out. I'm a fan of efficient tuning, I'd rather get more out what I've got where possible rather than adding boost.
Cams out to get the head studs removed - Put them back in once the studs were off to keep everything in place when removing the heads.
Seemed to have missed my picture of the gasket for this side but it was all ok with no obvious signs of failure.
Turbo side, different story. Looks like the gasket has failed in two places at the bottom around the cylinders.
Here you can see obvious blow-by on the cylinder head where the gasket has failed.
Gratuitous turbo shot for all the turbo fetishists out there.
At this point, feeling quite pleased i'd found the source of the problem, I started cleaning up the block and piston crowns only to find this.. looks like a clean through crack that has been previously repaired?.. The crack appears to go all the way through into the cylinder, its not visually clear but im sure I can feel it when I run my finger across it. This is on the passenger side, NOT the turbo side that the gasket failed on. There was no obvious coolant leak from this.
So i guess the question is where do I go from here? Can that be repaired (again?) Does anyone have any experience of having this done? The engine was running just shy of 400/400 previously which I'd like to up a little.. Or do I look at sourcing another block / short engine? Anyone know of any failed projects being broken up with good spec motors?
I'd been getting symptoms of head gasket failure - the EJ257 was on 70k miles with a rebuild earlier in its life due to gasket failure at which point it got bearings, forged pistons, arp head studs, etc etc. Couple these symptoms with the slipping clutch from my other thread and it was time for the engine to come out.
Pulled the inlet manifold off, bit of a bugger of a job. Don't do it. This will go back on with TGV deletes to simplify things a bit and eek a few more horses out. I'm a fan of efficient tuning, I'd rather get more out what I've got where possible rather than adding boost.
Cams out to get the head studs removed - Put them back in once the studs were off to keep everything in place when removing the heads.
Seemed to have missed my picture of the gasket for this side but it was all ok with no obvious signs of failure.
Turbo side, different story. Looks like the gasket has failed in two places at the bottom around the cylinders.
Here you can see obvious blow-by on the cylinder head where the gasket has failed.
Gratuitous turbo shot for all the turbo fetishists out there.
At this point, feeling quite pleased i'd found the source of the problem, I started cleaning up the block and piston crowns only to find this.. looks like a clean through crack that has been previously repaired?.. The crack appears to go all the way through into the cylinder, its not visually clear but im sure I can feel it when I run my finger across it. This is on the passenger side, NOT the turbo side that the gasket failed on. There was no obvious coolant leak from this.
So i guess the question is where do I go from here? Can that be repaired (again?) Does anyone have any experience of having this done? The engine was running just shy of 400/400 previously which I'd like to up a little.. Or do I look at sourcing another block / short engine? Anyone know of any failed projects being broken up with good spec motors?
#2
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Wow, good work mate....how long have you owned the car? How many miles have you done? Cheers
#4
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Yeah, very obviously a weak point on the semi block.
#5
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get a used block as if you repair it what says you would not get the same issue again , you have been unlucky but in same sentence the first crack i saw on a scooby was same place on a cs400 , i feel for good reliability and fuel as mines a daily drive then i keep the power down and 400 is too much for me any way, as i’m sure i would end up popping it 😁🤣
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I had an identical issue on my 2.5 was only running 342 / 410 ft lb. Mine ended up hydrolocking on start up, but luckily no rods bent. It was fully built nearly 5 years ago.
I went for a new block in the end....same place mine went :
I went for a new block in the end....same place mine went :
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Enginetuner will knock you up forged 2.1L stroker short block if you give them somewhere in the region of £2.5k & a set of cases (probably not your current ones ).
https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-announcements-363/707719-enginetuner-2-1-stroker-engines.htmlhttps://www.scoobynet.com/trader-announcements-363/707719-enginetuner-2-1-stroker-engines.html
Comparison of a 2.1 vs 2.0
https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-announcements-363/707719-enginetuner-2-1-stroker-engines.htmlhttps://www.scoobynet.com/trader-announcements-363/707719-enginetuner-2-1-stroker-engines.html
Comparison of a 2.1 vs 2.0
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