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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:12 AM
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Any wheel specialist out there as I’m Well in abit of a muddle,
I just bought some work emontion d9r alloys in :

18 x 8.5 et47

I was told they clear brembos so auto presumed they would clear ap 6 pots
not the case so now I’m alittle stuck the ap’s are hitting on the actual in side
of the alloys as the ap’s I guess are a bigger caliper and hitting on the spokes
so 100% these alloys won’t fit... I don’t want to lose the ap’s so I guess I will
have to sell on the alloys.

I can see they was originally fitted to a hatch Impreza with brembos fitted though I have
a blob spec c I was going to have the wheels refurbed this week but that is all off now
due to the wheel not fitting over the ap’s

are there any differences between the hatch and the blob on the way the hub sit
just I’m gutted that the wheel don’t fit.







Fitted to the hatch with brembos previously :





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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:18 AM
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Depending on year,early blobs are 100 pcd and later widetrack blobs and hatches 114 pcd
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 10:22 AM
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The pcd is not the issues both cars are 5x100 pcd
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 11:12 AM
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Ideally you're looking for an 8" x et42. Anything larger than that and yours limiting yourself to choice of alloys.
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bryan Gallacher
Ideally you're looking for an 8" x et42. Anything larger than that and yours limiting yourself to choice of alloys.
wtf has the et or width got to do with this issue.....tool
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 11:25 AM
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You've answered your own question 355mm 6pot AP's are bigger (in overall diameter) than 4pot Brembos.
Probably the same reason you can't fit Alcon 365mm 6 pots to the OEM WRX STI Saloon wheels whereas the 343mm 6 pot (SAME caliper) version is fine - wheel design.

355mm AP's require a clearance radius of at least 205mm
https://www.apracing.com/drawings/P16.341.pdf
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 11:50 AM
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Generally speaking the AP caliper is a slimmer design than the Brembo BUT the inner design of those Works is very poor clearance wise and hence with the larger 355 rotor its not clearing.......

most 18" wheels would fly over that set-up
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 12:12 PM
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Ok thanks people...if they fit over a hatch set up dose that mean proving the studs are at 5x100 they should
clear brembos on classic / Newage... just I’m gonna have to sell these on and I paid quite a lot for them thinking
they would be a straight fit over the ap’s

im absolutoy fuming with myself for getting it so wrong
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 12:30 PM
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As Alyn says 18" usually fit over the AP's no problem. Must be 10mm clearance on mine P-WRC1 et46
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
As Alyn says 18" usually fit over the AP's no problem. Must be 10mm clearance on mine P-WRC1 et46
aw so it does have to do with width. thought so.
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
You've answered your own question 355mm 6pot AP's are bigger (in overall diameter) than 4pot Brembos.
Probably the same reason you can't fit Alcon 365mm 6 pots to the OEM WRX STI Saloon wheels whereas the 343mm 6 pot (SAME caliper) version is fine - wheel design.

355mm AP's require a clearance radius of at least 205mm
https://www.apracing.com/drawings/P16.341.pdf

the work alloys clearance is exactly 205mm but still to tight you would have
have a extra 10 to 15mm on top of that to be happy just wish I would have
known this first, I should have asked about more first
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 01:06 PM
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Standard hatch bbs wheels the aps 6 barely clear
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
You've answered your own question 355mm 6pot AP's are bigger (in overall diameter) than 4pot Brembos.
Probably the same reason you can't fit Alcon 365mm 6 pots to the OEM WRX STI Saloon wheels whereas the 343mm 6 pot (SAME caliper) version is fine - wheel design.

355mm AP's require a clearance radius of at least 205mm
https://www.apracing.com/drawings/P16.341.pdf

Hi Don.... would you happen to what clearances are needed
for brembos on a Newage and classic by chance

I’m just wondering if these wheels will clear brembos on the above
as I’m not selling the ap’s so the wheels will have to be sold
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyspeedfreakz



Hi Don.... would you happen to what clearances are needed
for brembos on a Newage and classic by chance

I’m just wondering if these wheels will clear brembos on the above
as I’m not selling the ap’s so the wheels will have to be sold
Hold on till I copy and paste a post I made somewhere else. I hate typing.
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 02:11 PM
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I've seen this issue on nasioc, the guy shaved the corner of the caliper off.
not something I'd do but an option
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Here you go. This is for the classic

Most wheels require ET48 or less to fit over Brembos. The size of the P-WRC1 Prodrive rims fitted to the P1 where ET53 which will not fit over the Brembos. The same rim is (was) available in ET46 which will fit over Brembos. Do not go over 7 1/2 inch rim cause chances are you will run into clearance issues.
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
You've answered your own question 355mm 6pot AP's are bigger (in overall diameter) than 4pot Brembos.
Probably the same reason you can't fit Alcon 365mm 6 pots to the OEM WRX STI Saloon wheels whereas the 343mm 6 pot (SAME caliper) version is fine - wheel design.

355mm AP's require a clearance radius of at least 205mm
https://www.apracing.com/drawings/P16.341.pdf
Sorry to interrupt above.
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 02:28 PM
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So with these been a et47 is going to be tight maybe a 5 mm spacer will be needed to clear brembos on a classic ,,,,
will the bulk of the caliper fit in the wheel though as the brembo been a smaller calliper than the ap I guess it will just the et
been the issue
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyspeedfreakz
So with these been a et47 is going to be tight maybe a 5 mm spacer will be needed to clear brembos on a classic ,,,,
will the bulk of the caliper fit in the wheel though as the brembo been a smaller calliper than the ap I guess it will just the et
been the issue
As far as Brembos are concerned i'd be 99% sure they'd fit its your disc diameter thats causing you problems.
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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 09:38 PM
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Drop down to 330 mm discs
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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 08:49 AM
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its nothing to do with Width or ET its purely down to inner spoke design / rim clearance

your pix show them fitted over Brembo's so that is not an issue BUT they appear to have a very tight radius to the spokes at the rim end and hence they are struggling with larger set-ups............

we have run customers cars on custom 355mm / Alcon 6pots and 17" competition rims.................
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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 11:42 AM
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How much would you be looking for them?
What tyres are fitted and what's the tread like?

Might be interested if you're selling.
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Originally Posted by Drew106
How much would you be looking for them?
What tyres are fitted and what's the tread like?

Might be interested if you're selling.

drew im just listing them on eBay as we speak i will drop you a pm
now and give you the speck

cheers
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Originally Posted by Drew106
How much would you be looking for them?
What tyres are fitted and what's the tread like?

Might be interested if you're selling.

pm sent
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If anyone is interested in a set of work emotion 18” x 8.5 et 47 5x100 in bronze feel free to drop me a pm
* won’t clear ap’s though
also listed on eBay with full details





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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyspeedfreakz
If anyone is interested in a set of work emotion 18” x 8.5 et 47 5x100 in bronze feel free to drop me a pm
* won’t clear ap’s though
also listed on eBay with full details






go on then how much posted bro?

Paypal or bank transfer?

5x100 sorry
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