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Old 17 November 2018, 02:38 PM
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Any ideas guys? I have an '06 STi. Mapped. Nothing major.

Problem is oil consumption: and I mean MASSIVE. Over summer, car swallowed 4 litres and threw a CEL. I changed to 10-50 fully synth: same thing. Changed PCV valve - she's still drinking oil.

What kinds of things cause this to happen? Thinking of selling car... ****.

67,000 miles. Daily commute. 200 miles per week.
Old 17 November 2018, 02:42 PM
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I’d get a compression test done, doesn’t look good I’m afraid.
Old 17 November 2018, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by matt-c
I’d get a compression test done, doesn’t look good I’m afraid.
Cheers. Yup - I'm fairly committed to the idea of selling her on now. The Sti dream has been ****, really. Pardon my French.
Old 17 November 2018, 02:45 PM
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i am assuming it’s a 2.5 litre ? try a catch can , are you getting visible smoke at any time , turbo oil seals , an engine oil leak , ring land failure , worn or oval shaped bores , my friend had the bore issues on a 2.5 spec d , what was the cel code
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Originally Posted by Vxr2010
i am assuming it’s a 2.5 litre ? try a catch can , are you getting visible smoke at any time , turbo oil seals , an engine oil leak , ring land failure , worn or oval shaped bores , my friend had the bore issues on a 2.5 spec d , what was the cel code
2.5 yessir. Thanks for tips.
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My hatch used about 5litres in 2500 miles turned put to be ringland failure
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Get a compression test done , sorry i am thinking ring land failure
Old 17 November 2018, 02:50 PM
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it’s a good chance to go forged , main thing is forged pistons and head bolts , a great mod and engine is a lot tougher
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Originally Posted by peter zippy reid
My hatch used about 5litres in 2500 miles turned put to be ringland failure
God - that. Is it engine-out, rebuild territory then?
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Originally Posted by Doc T
God - that. Is it engine-out, rebuild territory then?
Yep
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Yip mine is now forged if yours is using a lot a catch can wont help
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Originally Posted by matt-c


Yep
My fault for getting the Spec D...
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Hate to say I told you so but alarm bells were ringing in the posts when you first got the car ��
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Originally Posted by ProdriveTim
Hate to say I told you so but alarm bells were ringing in the posts when you first got the car ��
Fair comment. Still - how was I to know? Can't strip an engine when you buy a car!
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Have you got the oil cap on ?

it could just be falling out the top
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Originally Posted by dpb
Have you got the oil cap on ?

it could just be falling out the top
Ha, ha. No mate - I am blond, but not 'professionally blond'. Thanks for checking though!
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As above compression test first , don’t give up on the car , go forged it’s well worth it then you end up with a very sorted car , dont go silly on power when it’s forged so it’s stays reliable
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Originally Posted by Vxr2010
As above compression test first , don’t give up on the car , go forged it’s well worth it then you end up with a very sorted car , dont go silly on power when it’s forged so it’s stays reliable
Cheers. Only issue is it's my daily.... Might have to buy a diesel box and SORN the Scoob until funds permit rebuild...
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It's got bad news and pound signs written all over it unfortunately this one mate by the sounds of it!

If it's not pooling under the car it's being swallowed by the motor. You said it used 4L over summer, how many miles was this over? Get someone following you and load it up to see if there's clouds of smoke behind. On the bright side think of it as a constant oil change?!

Also, what fault code are you getting with your check engine light?

Cheers
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This - https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...-failures.html
Old 19 November 2018, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby_LewC
It's got bad news and pound signs written all over it unfortunately this one mate by the sounds of it!

If it's not pooling under the car it's being swallowed by the motor. You said it used 4L over summer, how many miles was this over? Get someone following you and load it up to see if there's clouds of smoke behind. On the bright side think of it as a constant oil change?!

Also, what fault code are you getting with your check engine light?

Cheers
Summer hols were East Kent up to Derbyshire. CEL came on up north. RAC attended - I don't recall the code, but the RAC guy didn't check the oil! No smoke from my rear...MATRON. Inside of zorst is black and gunky though. She's burning - just. Really. Slowly.

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So, if it is ringland failure you have now got a choice of either disposing of the car for peanuts, or chucking a good few grand at it and ending up with a really fantastic car with a zero mile engine and enhanced resale value.
Personally, I'd say a forged spec d would be a very desirable machine.
A bill like this is very painful, but you may end up with something pretty special at the end of it.
How far is slowboy racing from you?
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Originally Posted by Cambs_Stuart
So, if it is ringland failure you have now got a choice of either disposing of the car for peanuts, or chucking a good few grand at it and ending up with a really fantastic car with a zero mile engine and enhanced resale value.
Personally, I'd say a forged spec d would be a very desirable machine.
A bill like this is very painful, but you may end up with something pretty special at the end of it.
How far is slowboy racing from you?
Don't know: are they good? What are the symptoms of ringland failure? I don't have smoke, or hesitation, or loss of power. Or is this something along the lines of 'get ready for the explosion'?
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I've not used slowboy (I think the contact is called Neil), they are a bit far for me; I'm based in Cambridge. But I have seen them recommended to people in the area.
The ringlands are the channels cut into the pistons that hold the piston rings in place. When they fail the piston rings aren't held in place, and can lead to loss of compression, scored bores, and bits of metal floating round the engine.
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Originally Posted by Cambs_Stuart
I've not used slowboy (I think the contact is called Neil), they are a bit far for me; I'm based in Cambridge. But I have seen them recommended to people in the area.
The ringlands are the channels cut into the pistons that hold the piston rings in place. When they fail the piston rings aren't held in place, and can lead to loss of compression, scored bores, and bits of metal floating round the engine.
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Have you had a leakdown test done? It looks from an earlier thread that you had a compression test done that come back okay.

4L of oil over a few hundred mile is hugeeee as you say. Manufacturers give 1000 miles per Litre as max normal usage but no car I've ever owned (and I've had some sheds!) have used that much. Weird you aren't seeing visible smoke though at that sort of usage.
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You should be able to check the CEL code yourself with one of these and the torque pro smartphone app:

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Originally Posted by Scooby_LewC
Have you had a leakdown test done? It looks from an earlier thread that you had a compression test done that come back okay.

4L of oil over a few hundred mile is hugeeee as you say. Manufacturers give 1000 miles per Litre as max normal usage but no car I've ever owned (and I've had some sheds!) have used that much. Weird you aren't seeing visible smoke though at that sort of usage.
To be fair, I did do huge miles on that trip - plus it was super hot on the way up 30 degrees. Recent oil usage has been about one litre over, I suppose, 500-600 miles. No smoke though - I swear!
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Mate, I have the same car as you. Head gasket had gone when I got it but I saved up and went (slowly) down to Alan Jeffery and have never regretted it in the 8 years I've owned it since. Reliable as they come and 360bhp when I (rarely) feel like it. Not cheap but the cost will reflect pretty much exactly the difference in value of your car before and after.
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Originally Posted by Doc T
Any ideas guys? I have an '06 STi. Mapped. Nothing major.

Problem is oil consumption: and I mean MASSIVE. Over summer, car swallowed 4 litres and threw a CEL. I changed to 10-50 fully synth: same thing. Changed PCV valve - she's still drinking oil.

What kinds of things cause this to happen? Thinking of selling car... ****.

67,000 miles. Daily commute. 200 miles per week.
recommended oil is 5w-30 synthetic why you using 10-50? That can’t help I wouldn’t have thought.


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