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Old 10 September 2017, 04:16 PM
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Hi all.im having a remap on tuesday because i dont like the place that did the map on it before i had it and i dont think its a very good map.
Forged engine rebuild 4k miles ago
Nitried crank
Cosworth pistons and rings
Acl Race bearings
Manley conrods
Cosworth head gaskets
Rcm head studs
Turbo dynamics mdx 450
K+n panel filter
Miltek Turbo back with sports cat
Injection dynamics injectors
Walbro fuel pump
3port boost selinoid
Run on vpower currently 367bhp
What do you think it will do?

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Old 10 September 2017, 04:54 PM
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you need an front mount intercooler for a start , maybe just under 400
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Panel filter will hold that turbo back and what size is the Milltek, 2.5" or 3"?
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Old 10 September 2017, 04:58 PM
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3"
Old 10 September 2017, 05:18 PM
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replacing the panel filter with cold air intake should get you into the 400's but it's anyone's guess otherwise.
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Im only having it done because i dont think much of the place that did the map thats on it (i think its a generic map). I would rather pay to have a remap for piece of mind. If it makes more it makes more if not them ok. I think it could do a bit better though
Old 10 September 2017, 07:31 PM
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Who mapped it and who is going to map it?
Old 10 September 2017, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bighead
you need an front mount intercooler for a start , maybe just under 400
No you don't need a front mount for 400bhp.
Old 10 September 2017, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
No you don't need a front mount for 400bhp.
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Old 10 September 2017, 08:29 PM
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It was a local company. The remap is being done by steve simpson (simtek)
Old 10 September 2017, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon T
Im only having it done because i dont think much of the place that did the map thats on it (i think its a generic map). I would rather pay to have a remap for piece of mind. If it makes more it makes more if not them ok. I think it could do a bit better though
that's fair, just to note though, the harder a turbo works the more heat it produces which has a dramatic effect on how much boost and power is had.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
No you don't need a front mount for 400bhp.
No not again please.
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
No not again please.
correct ! Ran 428 on a top mount . Some peeps in the higher 4,s
Old 11 September 2017, 12:51 PM
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good luck with temps running that much on a top mount.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
good luck with temps running that much on a top mount.
Is right but nobody seems to grasp the wider picture.
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Is right but nobody seems to grasp the wider picture.
I've given up trying mate, people seem to forget how much actual research/testing people like harvey smith did into the subject rather then me expert mate on fb says. Bit like people saying front mounts cause lag, well they do if you do a **** poor setup and map on them.
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Originally Posted by Jon T
What do you think it will do?
i'll go 387
Old 11 September 2017, 02:06 PM
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Wonder if this guy can't afford a decent front mount,

Or has chosen to go top mount due to his **** poor map or setup,

All depends on your goals,

There are many different ways to tie your shoes

Everything is a compromise when tuning/upgrading
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6 minutes on
Old 11 September 2017, 02:34 PM
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There is also Water Injection

Meth Injection

I'm also sure i have seen a drag Subaru running a front mounted turbo blowing straight into a reverse inlet

No Intercooler at all,


I do agree the benefits of a FMIC far outweigh the downsides,

But if those downsides are the main things u want to minimise with your build then who's to judge,
Old 11 September 2017, 02:42 PM
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Yes you have but that's a short dart down a track try doing a couple of miles and see
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Yes you have but that's a short dart down a track try doing a couple of miles and see
Exactly my point tho,

Depends entirely on the goals of the build,
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Exactly my point tho,

Depends entirely on the goals of the build,
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I run an 03 wrx sti type uk, on 180,000 miles, standard E207 block, SC42 billet turbo, 850 injectors, gt spec headers, standard sti top mount, 3" Miltek, K&N under bonnet induction kit, mapped using Ecutek, running 1.45 bar, 406bhp and I have not blown my engine up despite it being a daily drive, used as a sprint car, and hill climbs. It is tracked quite a few times in a year and guess what, I have had no engine problems and it has been like this for the last 80, 000 miles.

I think too many people get hung up about top mounts. Oh one other thing, the car has been running in southern Spain for the last 6 months where it is a lot warmer than the uk.


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My IAT after sitting in que for 1/4 at crail,

With FMIC

Ran 12.7
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I'm sure someone will know, hence asking. Can anyone please confirm if the MY15 onwards top mount will easily fit on a MY03 JDM STI please? Anyone know how much more efficiency you get with the MY15 onwards in relation to the MY03??? I'm not after huge power, I'm after 400bhp but would live with around 420bhp. I know my current TMIC will do that but I'm always interested in getting there more efficiently before I right off the TMIC idea & go FMIC. Thanks to all 👍🏼
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy



My IAT after sitting in que for 1/4 at crail,

With FMIC

Ran 12.7
Little bit worrying that. May put my full stops and commas in it appears the grammar police are after me.
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Originally Posted by Bob99
I run an 03 wrx sti type uk, on 180,000 miles, standard E207 block, SC42 billet turbo, 850 injectors, gt spec headers, standard sti top mount, 3" Miltek, K&N under bonnet induction kit, mapped using Ecutek, running 1.45 bar, 406bhp and I have not blown my engine up despite it being a daily drive, used as a sprint car, and hill climbs. It is tracked quite a few times in a year and guess what, I have had no engine problems and it has been like this for the last 80, 000 miles.

I think too many people get hung up about top mounts. Oh one other thing, the car has been running in southern Spain for the last 6 months where it is a lot warmer than the uk.
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Is that 180000 miles on the original engine? No rebuilds?
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The current engine has done 120,000 miles (80k at 400+) and has never been apart so no rebuilds. It was on the dyno recently and it has not lost any power, had the map checked and now running 408bhp. I use only Millers 10/50 and change the oil every 10k despite the hard life the engine has had. Did forget to mention the exhaust is ceramic coated and wrapped which really does make a big difference to under bonnet temperatures. Top mount is coated in gold heat reflective tape along with the heat shield around the air filter as every bit helps the intake temps.
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I ran my sti 03 on a top mount for 5 years. Running 436bhp 385 torque. Never had a issue, countless 12.1s fastest being 12.13 @ 113 mph.



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