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Old 11 November 2016, 12:57 PM
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Default Ferodo DS2500 or Carbone lorraine RC5+

Im after some new front pads in my blobeye wrx, running 340bhp on the standard subaru 4 pots and oem discs.

Currently have the standard pagid ones which surprisingly aren't too bad better then brembo but just dont cut it.

i only work 2 miles up the road mon-fri so my engines barely warm and probably brake about 5 times before i get there.

But i do alot of hard fast road driving at the weekend and the brakes just fade in more or less 10 minutes.

out of the 2 pads which would you guys reccomend or i dont mind other reccomendations??

dont mind brake dust as i have gun metal grey alloys, i do want a decent bite from cold and i also dont mind if they eat discs got 2 new sets in the garage and there cheap.

O i also dont want no squeal had some pads that squealed in a vw golf at low speeds felt like a t*t all the time people stareing.

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Old 11 November 2016, 02:01 PM
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If it was for my car the carbone Lorraine RC5+ would be my first choice the Ferodo DS2500 is a good pad for day to day but for really hard driving fast road track etc the CL pads are far superior,you will get more noise from the CL pads though but that is the trade off between performance and comfort I'm afraid for better stopping power.SJ.
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@stonejedi a couple of questions.

can you hear them squeal inside the car with the windows up? only have a quietish prodrive exhaust.

when do they squeal low speeds?

hows the grip from cold?
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Originally Posted by jf12345
@stonejedi a couple of questions.

can you hear them squeal inside the car with the windows up? only have a quietish prodrive exhaust.

when do they squeal low speeds?

hows the grip from cold?
They usually squeal at slow speeds and you can hear it through a window,but as I said before it's a trade off with most performance pads,if you want superb stopping power you get a capable performance pad,if you are bothered about sounds O.E is where you will have to stay i'm afraid....Yes mine did ,but when I fitted the CL pads I never applied the anti squeal paste as a option because I did not really care about the noise I just wanted better stopping power,but my mate has the CL pads fitted with the anti squeal paste and to be honest I have never heard a squeal from his car.Both of your pad choices perform good enough from cold so no worries their.SJ.
Old 11 November 2016, 04:33 PM
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Or you could give PF Zs a try. I've not tried CLs but I find Zs are better than DS2500
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DS2500s are very dusty but seem to last for ages - which doesn't quite tally. I have them on my APs, they are OK but will definitely try something different when it comes to replace.
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Originally Posted by Paben
Or you could give PF Zs a try. I've not tried CLs but I find Zs are better than DS2500
I have always been a big advocator of performance friction pads,I'm not too sure though if PF make a pad for the Subaru four pot calliper they only do one for the Gold STI Brembo but that is going back a good few years now for me they might stock one now,if they do that's exactly what I would be fitting not as good from cold as the other two pad choices but performance wise and low noise they are Superb.SJ.
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no PFC only have their race '11 compound available in this shape..........

personally if you want something more aggressive i would use the likes of F4R or the slightly less aggressive 1155's - be far more disc friendly than CL's
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What about DS3000?

Are these not suitable for everyday/fast road use? Do they not work from cold? I guess they need track-like abuse to get them working effectively, no?

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Originally Posted by joz8968
What about DS3000?

Are these not suitable for everyday/fast road use? Do they not work from cold? I guess they need track-like abuse to get them working effectively, no?
DS3000 is a very good pad for track can be used for fast road as well,one thing though say goodbye to your disc's.SJ.
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The PF Z's were going to be my pad of choice but they don't do them for the subaru 4 pots, thanks for confirming AS performance.

Think im going to take the plunge and get the CL's and apply the anti squeal paste with the hopes there is no irritating squeal, wont get my hopes up though lol

sound advice lads

am i correct in saying these don't need bedding in too?
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
DS3000 is a very good pad...one thing though say goodbye to your disc's.SJ.
Aaah. I getcha.

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Have the ds2500 on my gtr.the noise is horrible ��
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Originally Posted by jf12345

am i correct in saying these don't need bedding in too?
They do still need a brake in procedure to be carried out but it's minimal...3 to 4 moderate firm stops I found and your good to go.SJ.
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I'm on my second set of cl5+ pads on 4 pots, i use my car for occasional road and track use, they have performed faultlessly for both uses. Not noisey or grabby on the road and inspire confidence on the track.
The minus points (pun intended) they are a dirty pad and not very kind to the discs.

Great value pad if you like cleaning wheels.
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Originally Posted by edsel
I'm on my second set of cl5+ pads on 4 pots, i use my car for occasional road and track use, they have performed faultlessly for both uses. Not noisey or grabby on the road and inspire confidence on the track.
The minus points (pun intended) they are a dirty pad and not very kind to the discs.

Great value pad if you like cleaning wheels.
I agree but the Ferodo DS range of pads are worst believe me,the only pad that I have used and found to be clean for a performance pad have been the Performance Friction range.SJ.




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