BBC1 this morning - 30 Aug 2016.

Fake harnesses for sale and failing badly in tests. People should watch this and be warned that they look good but can kill. If you rally or race get real stuff otherwise just leave them alone.

 

Caught some of that whilst eating breakfast...

Not to mention the fake ice cream vans (just when I thought I'd heard/seen it all).

 

Nothing new that...takata's have been copied for years, I guess they have moved on to other brands now

 

I bought one off ebay a couple of years ago. Had a letter earlier this year from some governing body explaining that it was fake and that I should dispose of it immediately.

When I then contacted paypal and ebay regarding getting my money back they both washed their hands of me and said nothing they could do.

I'll just stick it on the passenger seat and let my wife take the chance

 

They bloody should take note as its classed as counterfeit which they are against, especially if you've got a letter from the governing body to prove.

 

I saw this as well, scary how the lower harness mounts just fell apart.

 

It's the same with the fake OMP and Sparco steering wheels yet people still buy them. They don't take much effort to bend.

 

Saw the program too and thought the same as Jay. Should have done a complete program on boss/hubs, steering wheels, wheel nuts and harnesses.

 

Ebay said there was nothing they could do as the seller was not using ebay any longer, I replied that he most likely was but just with a different name.

PayPal said they would be more than happy to help and would refund me, if I'd contacted them within 30 days of the purchase

Not too fussed though, it looks the part in the car.

 

Just out interest what sort of prices do these fakes sell for cause i bet they not that cheap? Shocking how you can get anything non genuine from phones to an armani t-shirt to motorsport parts. How do they do it? I mean must be easy iron on a transfer to a t-shirt but to replicate harnesses,steering wheels and hks items must take some doing?

 

Think from memory I paid £70.
To be fair I presumed it wasn't genuine as it was half the price of others, I bought it as a show item rather than to use.
Must say I'm shocked at how poor it was in the above test though, the item itself looks quality.

 

Lol, so you still got em fitted

 

Tegiwa sell nice takatas at decent price

 

The girl in my avatar has nice takatas.

 

Only bought one but yea still in the car, never once put it on though to be fair. Just looks a treat
I find them a ball ache to wear, especially in a road car.

 

Not disagreeing there.
You show queen

 

Just suits the car, what with the cage etc etc... plus I spend more time looking at the thing than actually driving it

 

It's probably more dangerous not using harnesses with a cage!

 

Got to agree with grumpy there

 

Just watched this on iplayer. Shocking is all i can say. To the untrained eye id think i had top of the range harnesses and would feel safe with them.

 

Yea you're probably not far wrong there. Mine is all padded up with decent stuff in all the areas where contact is likely in the event of an impact mind you.
If i ever got to a stage where I was using the car more often or decided to use it on track then I'd have to invest in a decent harness.

 

saw it at work. crash test dummy footage was terrifying!

 

That vid is like the equivalent to the 'Long Drop' in hanging!

 

It's all or nothing really.

I do shake my head when I see people with a set of harnesses fitted in a normal car.

Four points cause submarining where you slip under and get awful chest and neck injuries.

Five and six points are great but if used on their own they have to be tight and you will snap your neck. Normal belts allow your whole body to move a bit preventing this. 5/6 points keep you rigid and your head basically snaps at the base of your neck.

To stop this you need a helmet with a neck brace or head restraint system.

Also without a roll cage you will be held up right meaning the car rolls, the roof comes down and then your spine supports the weight of the car. In a normal belt your body can move away from this.

Just a roll cage as has been said you risk serious head injuries in a big smack. Even if your head isn't near it normally the car will distort enough to move your head near it.

So none of it is safe on it's own. In fact by fitting any of it on it's own or in a half arsed way you are increasing the risk of life changing injuries or death, plus no insurance payout. It's either the standard system which is expertly designed and tested. Or the whole proper job with genuine items made by proper companies cage, 5/6 points, a helmet and a neck brace/head restraint.

 

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