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Old 10 May 2015, 08:27 AM
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hey everybody,
first post it might be been my most important, lucky enough I've stumbled on here and found the bad traders posts and threads about a certain C performance company,

heres my major problem,I've at long last found the perfect car i want and they are selling it, type RA V limited 2000, blue, nice rims,clean body,forged,year,I'm really picky even though its my first Impreza,

the link is below of the car id love to find out if you guys know anything about this car or advice on the car,

the price is a little high i know that but I'm a good bargainer so not worried that area,

I've heard just stay away from them,but I'm very mechanically i service all my cars and my families but id appreciate any pointers


http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...x=0&link=false


many thanks
a hopeful new RA owner
Old 10 May 2015, 08:52 AM
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The bonnet scoop and wing are enough to make me walk away, never mind it being from them.

But hey it's your money so not my problem.
Old 10 May 2015, 09:01 AM
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The thing that would worry me is that someone has stuck on that aweful scoop and spoiler.
what else had been ruined?

If you after an RA. Specifically head over to typeRA.com
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Thats true that bonnet scoop is one of the worst I've ever seen but easily changed, I'm not that bothered about the wing,

can i ask you guys,if it was a straight car and no hidden problems how much would you expect to pay for it ?

thanks
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Depends who's done the work, what work has been done history etc hard to tell.
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there seem a lot of work been done and money spent on it prob an indication the engine let go,

on there website they seem to have this same place do a few of there cars i noticed,not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing, this the place they say carried out the work
Abbey Motorsport, Woodhurst La, Oxted RH8 9HJ (Tony Gillam)


was wondering if anybody has heard of them of are they well known,i fired it into google he seems legit but always good to see if theres another side to it

this the shop anyway

http://www.abbeymotorsport.co.uk

i was wondering if they are known,

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Old 10 May 2015, 09:41 AM
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Abbey Motorsport are a good sort, so I wouldnt have much worry there.

But the car has asthetically been abused, and is also being sold by a bunch of crooks. Personally I would walk away, or if you really don't want to, then pay for the comprehensive AA check. If you are spending that sort of cash, a few hundred quid to know everything about the car is well worth it.
Old 10 May 2015, 09:45 AM
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Abbey motorsport are Nissan specialists so that makes no sense for a Subaru having work done there! There is better companies to deal with than the company you are looking at with this Ra. Just have a read at the threads about them, you need to be crazy to shop there!
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Give Abbey a phone and ask if they deal with C Performance
Old 10 May 2015, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Zuber
Abbey motorsport are Nissan specialists so that makes no sense for a Subaru having work done there! There is better companies to deal with than the company you are looking at with this Ra. Just have a read at the threads about them, you need to be crazy to shop there!
What a load of tosh. Most ridiculous statement of the year award.

They are highly experienced engineers and mechanics, and a fantastic well equipped garage who tackle far more complicated engines than the EJ20/25. An engine is an engine, understand it, and be good at what you do, and all will be fine.
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its pissing me off that I'm not left with many options but they are a one of a kind car and i don't mind a few mods if there done right

but its still bad form from them C Performance doing business like that not looking after there customers,i will for sure get the AA to give it the full check and I'm 100% happy with everything ill walk away

Good idea ill give Abbey a call see if i can get as much info from them as possible
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Just buy a Type R instead, far superior, and if its your first Impreza you will be blown away
Old 10 May 2015, 10:17 AM
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The problem with this company (excluding poor service and bad ethics) is that if a trader is going to purchase a car and then sell it on for a premium, its moral rights that they should have the car fully checked over, serviced correctly and up to date, tyres checked and replaced if needed, wheel alignments done and the bodywork tidied up if needed then a proper warranty given.

Unfortunatlely this place and other similar places in the area do not seem to do this, they are just greedy and want to bang on the extra premium, a high one at that, and not care about selling a car that has issues, and provide a warranty that isnt worth the paper its written on.

If you buy privately, getting the car for a realistic price (without £3.5k added on top) and find out it needs a tyre or due a service then its not really an issue.

It also seems that all the sheds end up here, and anyone with a half decent car will sell it privatley knowing they are selling a decent car for a decent price, but if its a bit of a shed they will just trade it in at a dealer... Thats usually the way anyway.
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Trinity Your a God on these boards, I'm not worthy!!
C Performance taking a Subaru to Abbey is as funny as their warranties
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@BARXY your 100% on the money,its about having a decent code of ethics at the end of the day and not f**k everybody over that they come into contact with,
I'm taking a stand against buying that car off them it wouldn't be morally right to hand them money and fuel that corrupt joke of a business they call car sales, i look at buying a car as its meant to be a joy in your life not a big risk,

if someone wants give me the big selling points of the type R against the RA I'm listing
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Exactly dude. Thats what these people need. And thats before you have any problems then try get them to sort it... Problem is a lot of dealers are similar, but these lot are known for being one of the worse
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Yeah just give the bloke tony from Abby a ring and see if he knows the car. But personally there are a lot of bad reports dealing with this company and their former names (where they've renamed themselves) after purchasing. I'm sure if you have a look about and make it known on typeRA.com that you're in the market a very fine example will come up! with that sort of money you should get a beauty.. But to be honest mate the jap imports history is mostly bull**** anyway but they do look after their car very well. So try and get a decent jap model with no rust. With that close ratio gearbox you shouldn't need to worry about more horse power. It'll drive immense anyway!!!

Good luck fella!!!

Let us know how you get on!!

Cheers, Tom.
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i will give them a bell Abbeys and just see what they have to say anyway,

I've waited a long time to get myself one of these motors so I'm not gonna rush into it,

will keep you posted how i get on,

the advise is always welcome,thanks again

pierce
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Sounds like you have made your mind up already Knightrides.

Good luck with the purchase, I think you may need it.
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What's up with the p1 version that's blue has nice alloys limited edition and look alot better IMO

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Originally Posted by samSCOOBY
What's up with the p1 version that's blue has nice alloys limited edition and look alot better IMO
I already suggested the Type R, which is what the watered down P1 is based on
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Originally Posted by knightrides

if someone wants give me the big selling points of the type R against the RA I'm listing
Drive both. You will not choose an RA over an R, not in a million years!
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Originally Posted by Zuber
Trinity Your a God on these boards, I'm not worthy!!
C Performance taking a Subaru to Abbey is as funny as their warranties
I know, thankyou for saying. No you're not, but everyone has to start somewhere right?

Not sure where it says C Performance took it to Abbey for work. Did you make that up in your head?

Previous owner probably respected Abbey, as people should, or lived close by, or both and took it there for the build. Either way, an engine built by Abbey will be a good one. As long as C Performance are not making the paperwork up.
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Originally Posted by Trinity
Just buy a Type R instead, far superior, and if its your first Impreza you will be blown away

I would like to know what superior features the Type R has over the car the OP is looking for. Please share Trinity
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FORGED With Huge Spec. NO: *1559 Out Of 2000 Made*Modified At Abbey Motorsport.
Engine: Forged Engine Built By Abbey Motorsport(Tony Gillam) Using Woosner Pistons And Comrods,
ACL Race Main Bearings.
The Car Was Run-In By Abbey Motorsport(Scott) for 1000 Miles.
Turbo ECU:
AET Garrett GT30 Turbo With All Acilleries,
HKS Super Sqwark Dump Valve,
SIMTEK ECU,
Mark Gillam Abbey Motorsport Mapped 1.5 Bar Boost,
yeah i may have jumped to conclusions, all the stories and threads i had been reading about CP where fresh in my mind i was expecting anything but the truth from what they put in the adds for the cars

also I've only driven the RA but heard a little better handling from from the RA, 2 extra doors are handy,
what year did they stop making the R i wanted as late as a model as possible without jumping for the new shape ?
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Originally Posted by knightrides
yeah i may have jumped to conclusions, all the stories and threads i had been reading about CP where fresh in my mind i was expecting anything but the truth from what they put in the adds for the cars

also I've only driven the RA but heard a little better handling from from the RA, 2 extra doors are handy,
what year did they stop making the R i wanted as late as a model as possible without jumping for the new shape ?

MY00 was the last. Same for all "classic" models. V6 if it was an Sti
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What are the performance differences between RA and R, like the equipment thats standard is there much different ??

Are the R easier to get is there more of them kicking about ?
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Type R two door, a lot of them depending on spec have a DCCD gearbox (driver controlled centre differential), some have a red top engine to supposed to be rated for higher boost and horsepower.

Type RA (which is what I would go for personally), factory inspired by the rally car, type ra is lighter, earlier ra models had the td05 turbo rather than the td04 in other non ramodels, also most have if not all the DCCD (driver controlled centre differential), but they have the short ratio gears so quicker through the rev range but lower too speed, is removing the limiter of 110mph as it is in japan a front mount inter cooler is advised as the top mount just draws hot air at those speeds.

Cheers, Tom.

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So if i get a total standard one its best to go the basics with front mounted IC, Remap, induction, de-cat, inlet manifold,exhaust manifold ?

Also does a remap remove the limiter when its complete ??

cheers
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Originally Posted by knightrides
So if i get a total standard one its best to go the basics with front mounted IC, Remap, induction, de-cat, inlet manifold,exhaust manifold ?

Also does a remap remove the limiter when its complete ??

cheers
pierce
To be honest mate if you're looking for much bigger than standard power, perhaps try for the type R and find one with the rated red top engine. Will be easier in the long run and more reliable too I would say. Both will probably have the inter cooler water spray which is easily remounted for the front mount.

If you're looking for a quick standard car the type ra is special but it's getting rarer and will be much more valuable if kept standard in a few years.

Tom.


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