Donnie Brasco 46

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Some of you may have already seen this, but if you haven't it makes sobering viewing. This video shows a fatal crash from the helmet camera of the unfortunate rider.

It was very brave of the mum to release this footage with the risk of Internet trolls with their comments etc..

It's a little hard hitting, but just goes to show how accidents can happen.

Copy and paste this link into your browser, please watch the whole video - it's only 3 mins long.

Whilst his riding isn't perfect he is courteous to other road users and doesn't deserve the end result

http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=4ee_1409840558

scooby87

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I found the video very scary first time I watched as there is literally nothing he can do about it.

I do wonder the speed though as he literally has no chance when that car pulls out


Edit - this link is different from what I say and lists the speed.

Fonzey

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My mother was killed under very similar circumstances though the speed of the bike as far as I'm aware was never really known.

I have to say though, all this "think bike" stuff irritates me. If you're riding a bike which is difficult to see and gauge the speed of, then you should be very much riding on the cautious side. I've had so many bikes catch me out whilst in a car and a couple of these events could easily have ended in tragedy for the rider and my life would effectively be ruined.

Leave it for track days, more than one life was ruined on this occasion.

barnshaw

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I completely agree with Fonzey, the video is extremely sad and a big waste of life.

Only 2 days ago I saw a guy on a superbike of some kind weaving in and out of traffic on a dual carriage way only for a Merc to pull out on him, he locked up for about 50 foot , had the car pulled out 2 seconds later he would be dead,

I do agree with "think bike" but bikers also need to "think car" , its all very well them saying look and and look again, but its hard for a novice or new driver to grasp a bikers speed or distance, let alone if there doing beyond triple digit speeds and it happens so quickly.

AWG

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Very sad, I guess the biker is just a passenger at the point just before impact as any chance of manoeuvrability must be non existent for the rider

ditchmyster

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That's why I don't ride bikes anymore.

SirFozzalot

Very sad to see. Very brave if his mum to release the footage for all to see. Must be so painful for her to have watched that video footage of the moment her son loses his life.

You always imagine you would have time to react but it just goes to prove that you have no time at all in a situation like that.

mickp

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Tragic just tragic. R.I.P that fella

CRAZY DAVE4

Always going to be divided opinions on this one .
It says bike was doing 97
On a single road going past junctions it was probably only a matter of time.
Driver of car could have taken more care before pulling out but realistically would they expect him to be coming at that speed.
Tragic accident that could have been avoided, time and a place for those speeds.

Don Clark

A sad outcome, but can happen at any speed.

Was "removed" from my bike by a car doing a similar manoeuvre, in residential streets doing less than 20mph - car driver "didn't see me".

Luckily escaped with a factured Femur and torn cruciate ligaments

MattyB1983

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That is truly horrible and i feel sorry for his family as well as the car driver.
Maybe the driver should of taking a bit more care but I can't help but put most of the blame on the bike rider. He was clearly riding at well above the speed limit and the overtake on the approach to the junction was completely reckless.
If he had just sat behind the silver car until he past the junction then he would still be here today.

The blame is always pointed at the car driver in incidents like this, but it's not always the case.
A very good friend of mine was involved in an almost identical accident which involved the death of the bike rider. I won't go into detail but at first my friend was seen to be at fault. However the blame was then shifted to the rider after many people came forward and explained how the bike was moving at an incredibly high speed while overtaking stationery traffic at the entrance to the junction.

Dirk Diggler 75

Snap, r.i.p. fella ...

Donnie Brasco 46

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He was riding too fast and overtaking on the approach to a junction probably wasn't the most responsible thing to do. However police said that he and the car driver were in each other's vision for 7 seconds before the impact so they should've seen each other - in fairness the biker probably saw the car but assumed that he wouldn't turn. Other drivers coming towards the motorcyclist ie behind the Clio said that they saw the motorbike and the Clio driver admitted not only failing to see the motorcyclist but also the car that the biker just overtaken. He clearly wasn't paying any attention

johned

Very sad and what a brave woman R.I.P.young man.

Markyscoob

As a biker I always assume the worst of car drivers.....rarely am I let down....

Defensive riding is an art and I'm still here so either lucky or it's working..... Never take chances and never trust a car Not to move, ever....

JGlanzaV

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Fault lies squarely at both paarties door, the rider shouldn't have been doing that kind of speed especially coming up to a junction with a waiting car, and the car should have waited.

A bit more patience of both sides would have avoided this accident altogether.

Terrible tragedy but bikers are more at risk, and if riding in a manner in which puts them at more of a risk the consequences are truly horrific

Fonzey

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That may be the case, but the head-on profile of a motorbike is extremely difficult to judge the pace of, at least in my experience.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Clio driver DID see the bike, but thought at the distance that it was a perfectly safe maneuver. The bike was doing 135% of the speedlimit so covered the ground much quicker than expected, hence ended in impact.

I'm not saying the Clio is free of all blame - but I really think that it's on the shoulders of bikers to allow for cars, not the other way around.

It's a damn shame stuff like this happens (a lot), but hopefully this video shocks a few bikers into respecting the road a bit more.

jonnyricer2

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Maybe a silly question did he have his lights on??

From the looks of it the black car almost ambled across as though they did nt see the bike.

bighead

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exactly that my friend ...good experience rider would of reduce their speed when on coming traffic is in sight of junction , yet he made no attempt to reduce his speed .

Kempo

From the back story to the video the guy had been riding bikes for many many years and you would have expected him to have a great deal of experience from that but overtaking on the white line and so close to a junction was one half of the tragic causes - the car driver should have waited / seen the bike and car or completed the manoeuvre quickly if committed to turning across the road but did neither.

I ride bikes, the most dangerous places are junctions and roundabouts either because drivers mis judge the speed or just plain don't see.

It is a shocking video and I feel sorry for the family of all those involved. Very sobering as a road user.

jazzyjembreaze

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You have to ride defensive ( create a bubble )
Junctions are very bad news for bikes & statistics show.
Unfortunately speed was the factor in this accident
RIP

Scooby Stevo

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Think bike! I always do, but someone tell the complete **** that nearly hit our car with my family in today using a roundabout like a race track.
Works both ways cooking plick!!

Paulo P

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This explains and highlights exactly why I pass junctions at roughly 60mph, I trust no-one and if I have doubts I back off just like I do on my road bike. As a biker I'm probably slow but I'm so careful

*matthewturb2000*

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That's a nasty video to watch, poor guy rip,

Matt_STi

I agree with this 100%, whilst the Clio may or may not have seen the bike, it would be very hard to judge the speed of a motorbike coming right at you.

Whereas with a car, they are larger and your eyes would be able to judge roughly how fast the car was coming and if you can make it across the junction safely.

The motorbike has his lights on (you can see the reflection in the number plate) so whilst this makes the motorbike clearer to see, it might also detract away from how fast he was travelling.

Either way, what a sad way to go.

MrQaud

Christ, that video is quite horrific and serves as a great warning for both bikers and car drivers. Makes me shudder to think I once had a bike (briefly) - wouldn't have another one again. They should be showing stuff like this to teenagers about to start driving both cars and riding bikes...