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Old 25 August 2014, 07:45 PM
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Hi folks , only second track day at brands. Boss,s treat and up against him ...a 911 turbo , a bwm z4m , noble and a honda s2000. Im in my pride and joy , a 375-380 bhp sti v8 tweaked by neil at slowboy.
Firstly which should i fear the most ? Looks loke ot could be wet so i guess awd will help i believe the rest are all rwd ?? ,
Secondly any tips on tyre pressure and bc coilover damper setting , so hi/ lo on pressure and stiff / soft on suspension also should the fr be harder than rr etc. Thanls folks and il let you know joe we got on. Will also record a few laps and stick on here and youtube.
Old 25 August 2014, 07:48 PM
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Old 25 August 2014, 07:50 PM
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Remember it's not a race but a day to enjoy.
Old 25 August 2014, 07:53 PM
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You sound like you're going into the day with a very dangerous mindset. Forget about those other cars, infact - don't even try to get on track with them at the same time, it'll only end in tears.

Make sure you remember your cooldown laps, and build up through the day - find the grip and don't do longer than 15min sessions, you're likely to get scruffy after that.
Old 25 August 2014, 07:58 PM
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Take plenty of fuel with you!
Old 25 August 2014, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fonzey
You sound like you're going into the day with a very dangerous mindset. Forget about those other cars, infact - don't even try to get on track with them at the same time, it'll only end in tears.

Make sure you remember your cooldown laps, and build up through the day - find the grip and don't do longer than 15min sessions, you're likely to get scruffy after that.
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Old 25 August 2014, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Fonzey
You sound like you're going into the day with a very dangerous mindset. Forget about those other cars, infact - don't even try to get on track with them at the same time, it'll only end in tears.

Make sure you remember your cooldown laps, and build up through the day - find the grip and don't do longer than 15min sessions, you're likely to get scruffy after that.
Perhaps moley will hook him up with some insurance
Old 25 August 2014, 08:20 PM
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if it's wet I would keep your BC's at road setting to start with, that would be 8 clicks from softest for me. I started at 22 and the car was all over the place but it was very wet.
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Old 25 August 2014, 08:21 PM
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I only wrote that so Moley gives me cheaper trackday insurance
Old 25 August 2014, 08:28 PM
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Much appreciated guys. Dont worry im not going for an all out race just i know the one in tje bmw is one of those morons that will want to keep yrying to overtake me and then brag all year.
8 from soft ??? I drive with 15 amd 13 on normal roads ( lighter spring rate i think )
Old 25 August 2014, 08:32 PM
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Let the bimmer have his fun, it won't cost you anything.
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Take spare fuel
Empty anything loose out of the car

Lower tyre pressures for the first session
When you come in set them to what you want them to be for the day and then as a rule leave them alone.

BCs set to say a mid way point and keep stiffening up after each session to find out what works for you.

Take it easy get warmth in to the tyres, brakes and engine. Go in slowly into bends initialy work out which gear to use where what the best lines are, what are the tricky bits. Let many pass you. Build up a feel for the car and circuit slowly.

If you do that it will come together and you can gradually begin to push it harder and at the end of the day you may well be passing stuff that was passing you.

But dont try to be quicker than others, focus on being quicker yourself
Old 25 August 2014, 08:58 PM
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i was worried about taking mine out on track in the wet but it was equally as enjoyable as a dry day, take it easy and beware over confidence near end of the day. make sure you have windscreen wiper blades that dont squeak and all will be good. bimmer will spend more time facing the wrong way that the right way!! enjoy
Old 25 August 2014, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 4evascoob
Much appreciated guys. Dont worry im not going for an all out race just i know the one in tje bmw is one of those morons that will want to keep yrying to overtake me and then brag all year.
8 from soft ??? I drive with 15 amd 13 on normal roads ( lighter spring rate i think )
I had mine set to 20/20 to start, then went up to around 25/25 (with fairly soft springs)

I found changing the ARB settings made a bigger difference.

If the guy in the BMW tries to outdo you let him, just get some pics of him on the gravel when he overdoes it
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FWIW I had more fun at Brands in the wet than in the dry
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitehorn
But dont try to be quicker than others, focus on being quicker yourself
This should be a track day mantra.
Old 25 August 2014, 09:31 PM
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hard settings in the wet make for a very twitchy car


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Old 25 August 2014, 09:35 PM
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Worth a watch if you haven't seen this previously:

Old 25 August 2014, 09:46 PM
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Tyres are the key to a good day on the track, pay out for the best grip tyres you can run and you will have loads of fun exploring the limits of your tyres on the bends
Old 25 August 2014, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
I had mine set to 20/20 to start, then went up to around 25/25 (with fairly soft springs)

I found changing the ARB settings made a bigger difference.

If the guy in the BMW tries to outdo you let him, just get some pics of him on the gravel when he overdoes it
Find out next monday when i do my first track day in her Gary, Castle coombe awaits, looking forward to see how she performs.
Old 25 August 2014, 10:33 PM
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Some very good advise chaps thanks.
Tyres are eagle f1 asymetrics. 100%fr 75%r. , will be quite good if slightly damp so i van see what they are like when pushing on a bit in the bends. Had scoobs for 11 yrs but never hammered them in tje wet for obvious reasons.
Car also has wl adj arb ( middle hole) and wl solid droplinks , wl anti lift kit
Old 25 August 2014, 11:03 PM
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Take gaffer tape and cable ties, essential!!
Old 25 August 2014, 11:13 PM
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Wasnt planning to do any killing !!!! Lol
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The 911 may be 4wd.

By the way to everyone saying warm you're tyres up, there road tyres not f1 slicks they are designed to operate under general driving conditions and the majority of heat comes from the brakes so go fast and stop hard if you really care about tyre temps.

Plus whats all this be careful crap, I don't think you need to be told to not hurt yourself unless you are 5 years old.

Go for it I say, don't get many chances to stick it to the boss.
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Originally Posted by chris j t
Plus whats all this be careful crap, I don't think you need to be told to not hurt yourself unless you are 5 years old.
You'd have thought so, but I've seen a lot of stupidity on track.

Last time I went we only had 20 minutes running in the first 2 hours due to red flags, including 3 cars spinning on the sighting laps behind a pace car.
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
You'd have thought so, but I've seen a lot of stupidity on track.

Last time I went we only had 20 minutes running in the first 2 hours due to red flags, including 3 cars spinning on the sighting laps behind a pace car.
I know, I was making myself laugh as I was typing it.
Old 26 August 2014, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
You'd have thought so, but I've seen a lot of stupidity on track.

Last time I went we only had 20 minutes running in the first 2 hours due to red flags, including 3 cars spinning on the sighting laps behind a pace car.
Is this when I overtook the honda sideways on Paddock hill bend
Old 26 August 2014, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Anger
Is this when I overtook the honda sideways on Paddock hill bend
Very possibly, Beginning of December at Brands I think.

To be fair it was pretty greasy. Mike Wilds had to do a second briefing to tell everyone to calm down.
Old 26 August 2014, 12:20 AM
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Yep was my birthday, I remember on the sighting lap being first out in the Evo, I lost the Caterham and Clio following me, one on the grass the other in the gravel
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That's the one.

Me and Ross (Spec C, not the other Ross) got the 'calm down' bollocking even though we hadn't been out on track yet!


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